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BruinVol said:
@LA Vol is this a dumb question?

could liability beyond the buyout be an issue in stringing this thing out like we are?
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Yes, legal action is an issue. Coaches retain counsel and threaten to sue. The threat of damages is real, because juries are unpredictable and you never know what they'll do. But most cases settle, so universities are also concerned about what might come out in discovery. Fired coaches are willing to spill everything and hang everyone out to dry. That almost always implicates people up the chain. So most schools would rather pay someone to go away with an NDA than assume the risk of a lawsuit. UT has done this multiple times-- most recently, Butch Jones, who made it clear he would sue and burn everybody.
 
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LA Vol said:
I've said it before-- there's plenty of blame to go around, so no need to finger any one person. When things get this toxic, people aren't pulling together.

I'll say this, though-- it hasn't even gotten to the BOT and when it does, it'll be a fait accompli.

And there are a lot of boosters. They aren't a voting block. Most aren't employed by UT, and they don't run the university. They provide financial support and offer opinions-- many different opinions, and some are very strong opinions that carry more weight than others.
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Fait accompli, really? By the time this gets to the BOD, I think the decisions will have already been made.:D
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Marrone is not a proven winner.

Sorry but it’s the truth.
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I disagree, he’s won at the very highest level. He’s resurrected the Syracuse program and established a winner. He’s won with inferior talent... all things we need. Jags tanked this year, freed up cap space at his expense no doubt about it.
 
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LA Vol said:
Yes, legal action is an issue. Coaches retain counsel and threaten to sue. The threat of damages is real, because juries are unpredictable and you never know what they'll do. But most cases settle, so universities are also concerned about what might come out in discovery. Fired coaches are willing to spill everything and hang everyone out to dry. That almost always implicates people up the chain. So most schools would rather pay someone to go away with an NDA than assume the risk of a lawsuit. UT has done this multiple times-- most recently, Butch Jones, who made it clear he would sue and burn everybody.
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this does not shock or surprise me in the least... I think without a doubt, this guy was the worst we've had in quite a long time... Unfortunately with what we've been told about JP's toxic and abrasive personality, I think he wouldn't hesitate to do the same...
 
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vol494 said:
You bunch of Chestnut Ridge rejects! I’ve always wanted to wet a line in that pond. That little holler is always peaceful looking.
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You are welcome anytime. Not as much fish as there used to be. I quit stocking it when the locals would catch them all out and take them home. Just knock on my door and let me know you plan to fish.
 
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govols717 said:
Pruitt's not going anywhere this year. Get behind our coach and support him through year 4. The constant negatively certainly isn't doing anything to help the program - and frankly it's probably doing the opposite.
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Nope! I'm not supporting suckitude.
 
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If we do hire Marrone. Marion Hobby could potentially be back in the program as DC or Co-DC. He was really good during his time at Clemson as a DL Coach and recruiter. Been with Marrone a while now.

Let's just hire Marrone as HC. Chadwell as OC. Muschamp and Hobby as Co-DC's. Who cares at this point?
 
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LA Vol said:
Yes, legal action is an issue. Coaches retain counsel and threaten to sue. The threat of damages is real, because juries are unpredictable and you never know what they'll do. But most cases settle, so universities are also concerned about what might come out in discovery. Fired coaches are willing to spill everything and hang everyone out to dry. That almost always implicates people up the chain. So most schools would rather pay someone to go away with an NDA than assume the risk of a lawsuit. UT has done this multiple times-- most recently, Butch Jones, who made it clear he would sue and burn everybody.
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So why keep stringing this out? I mean won’t it cost the university more in the long run to continue dragging this along versus either keeping him or firing him & paying his buyout
 
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LA Vol said:
Yes, legal action is an issue. Coaches retain counsel and threaten to sue. The threat of damages is real, because juries are unpredictable and you never know what they'll do. But most cases settle, so universities are also concerned about what might come out in discovery. Fired coaches are willing to spill everything and hang everyone out to dry. That almost always implicates people up the chain. So most schools would rather pay someone to go away with an NDA than assume the risk of a lawsuit. UT has done this multiple times-- most recently, Butch Jones, who made it clear he would sue and burn everybody.
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This, people. Pointed it out previously.
 
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LA Vol said:
Yes, legal action is an issue. Coaches retain counsel and threaten to sue. The threat of damages is real, because juries are unpredictable and you never know what they'll do. But most cases settle, so universities are also concerned about what might come out in discovery. Fired coaches are willing to spill everything and hang everyone out to dry. That almost always implicates people up the chain. So most schools would rather pay someone to go away with an NDA than assume the risk of a lawsuit. UT has done this multiple times-- most recently, Butch Jones, who made it clear he would sue and burn everybody.
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thanks so that says a lot about the delay.


Let’s take what Atlanta Vol has said and assume much of it is true and that an inside person turned Pruitt in these violations. If Pruitt can prove that he isn’t guilty of those violations he damn sure should sue the school.
 
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Headvol said:
So why keep stringing this out? I mean won’t it cost the university more in the long run to continue dragging this along versus either keeping him or firing him & paying his buyout
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The question he was referring to was Where I asked if Pruitt could sue for MORE than just the buyout.
 
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LA Vol said:
Yes, legal action is an issue. Coaches retain counsel and threaten to sue. The threat of damages is real, because juries are unpredictable and you never know what they'll do. But most cases settle, so universities are also concerned about what might come out in discovery. Fired coaches are willing to spill everything and hang everyone out to dry. That almost always implicates people up the chain. So most schools would rather pay someone to go away with an NDA than assume the risk of a lawsuit. UT has done this multiple times-- most recently, Butch Jones, who made it clear he would sue and burn everybody.
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Yeah, they need to hammer out a settled buyout, so this ends cleanly. If you fire "with cause" and that cause is specifically related to infractions/violations, you have to feel comfortable that the cause is foolproof. There are millions on the table for Jeremy as well as his reputation. With the whispers that Pruitt has retained an attorney for himself, it's possible that a settled buyout is already in the works, which could explain some of the feet dragging.

Tennessee needs to go ahead and make a decision one way or the other. Nothing positive comes from this level of delay and unrest. Recruits and transfers get cold feet. Assistants and possible new head coaching candidates get other jobs and continue to see Tennessee as a toxic environment for coaches despite the legacy and resources of the program.
 
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LA Vol said:
Yes, legal action is an issue. Coaches retain counsel and threaten to sue. The threat of damages is real, because juries are unpredictable and you never know what they'll do. But most cases settle, so universities are also concerned about what might come out in discovery. Fired coaches are willing to spill everything and hang everyone out to dry. That almost always implicates people up the chain. So most schools would rather pay someone to go away with an NDA than assume the risk of a lawsuit. UT has done this multiple times-- most recently, Butch Jones, who made it clear he would sue and burn everybody.
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Meaning what exactly?
 
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BruinVol said:
thanks so that says a lot about the delay.


Let’s take what Atlanta Vol has said and assume much of it is true and that an inside person turned Pruitt in these violations. If Pruitt can prove that he isn’t guilty of those violations he damn sure should sue the school.
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Let's be honest, he's guilty of violations. Saban would be too. As would Dabo and anyone else. It's just about how much of a trail exists and who the guide is. Him suing would also ruin his career as a coach.
 
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LA Vol said:
Yes, legal action is an issue. Coaches retain counsel and threaten to sue. The threat of damages is real, because juries are unpredictable and you never know what they'll do. But most cases settle, so universities are also concerned about what might come out in discovery. Fired coaches are willing to spill everything and hang everyone out to dry. That almost always implicates people up the chain. So most schools would rather pay someone to go away with an NDA than assume the risk of a lawsuit. UT has done this multiple times-- most recently, Butch Jones, who made it clear he would sue and burn everybody.
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and i'd have no doubt pruitt would do the same.

which again, makes no sense as to why the results of this investigation are the deciding factor. they don't need that to justify firing him, at least from a public perception standpoint, and there's got to be next to nothing to gain in the long run by saving the $12m buyout.

none of this makes any sense. at all.
 
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