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#77
#77
The Covid excuse just didn’t do it for me because we looked just as ill prepared and poorly coached at the end of the season as throughout. After several months of practices. Hell our best two games were at the beginning of the year.

That excuse just doesn’t cut it. You need to find another.
 
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#78
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99gator said:
If I practice enough patience, you’ll be able to reference a Tennessee win over Florida when responding to me.
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Sad thing is, this Tennessee fan base is so downtrodden, so eaten up with hating itself and our program, that you'll probably get a ton of support for crowing about how much better you are.

Just keep in mind: 55-20. Not a single Tennessee loss this year was that bad.
 
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rikberry31 said:
As I stated in another post the real problem this season was the virus and the disruption, particularly as it pertains to practice. Tennesse's protocol was very strict and many other schools were not. I know there a lot of people who are sick of hearing this "covid excuse" but just because one is sick of the truth does not mean it is not the truth.
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Then will you not also agree that it is the truth that in 2019 Pruitt's team got demolished by a Georgia State team that had no right in beating them, ever? A Ga State team that rated out at 103 out of 130 in D1 football? A team that the next week barely eeked out a win over a non-D1 Furman team? Then promptly got demolished 57-10 by a MAC Western Michigan school. The same Georgia State team that had other losses by: 3, 14, 29, 28, and 21. A team that finished 121st in total defense out of 130 schools?

The Tennessee protocol may have been strict, but have you or anyone else measured how much difference there was between us and any of our other SEC counterparts? I know that we fielded a nearly full roster every game we played and had very little "contact tracing or Covid positive" players out on a weekly basis while some other squads were decimated by it. And isn't it oddly strange that despite the lack of practice going into the year - allegedly - that the team played their best ball the first two weeks of the season without all of that extra coaching assistance leading into the year?

It should be argued that the team would have improved week-to-week with more practice, allowing players that needed more time to catch up. Yet, the team floundered and won only 1 of their next 8 games - over a Vandy team that fielded less than 40 players - on the worst Vandy squad in memory. And, in the 7 losses, all were by double digits. Even Vandy didn't have 7 losses by double digits.

I'm not here to argue that Covid didn't play a part - but it did certainly play a part everywhere. To what degree, that's hard to measure. One measurable statistic is how many active players teams had week-to-week and I can safely say that Tennessee was near the very top of the league in active rosters on gameday.

Pretty sure this is all a moot point anyway because I don't think Pruitt is going to be the HC much longer.
 
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DownNDirty said:
Then will you not also agree that it is the truth that in 2019 Pruitt's team got demolished by a Georgia State team that had no right in beating them, ever? A Ga State team that rated out at 103 out of 130 in D1 football? A team that the next week barely eeked out a win over a non-D1 Furman team? Then promptly got demolished 57-10 by a MAC Western Michigan school. The same Georgia State team that had other losses by: 3, 14, 29, 28, and 21. A team that finished 121st in total defense out of 130 schools?

The Tennessee protocol may have been strict, but have you or anyone else measured how much difference there was between us and any of our other SEC counterparts? I know that we fielded a nearly full roster every game we played and had very little "contact tracing or Covid positive" players out on a weekly basis while some other squads were decimated by it. And isn't it oddly strange that despite the lack of practice going into the year - allegedly - that the team played their best ball the first two weeks of the season without all of that extra coaching assistance leading into the year?

It should be argued that the team would have improved week-to-week with more practice, allowing players that needed more time to catch up. Yet, the team floundered and won only 1 of their next 8 games - over a Vandy team that fielded less than 40 players - on the worst Vandy squad in memory. And, in the 7 losses, all were by double digits. Even Vandy didn't have 7 losses by double digits.

I'm not here to argue that Covid didn't play a part - but it did certainly play a part everywhere. To what degree, that's hard to measure. One measurable statistic is how many active players teams had week-to-week and I can safely say that Tennessee was near the very top of the league in active rosters on gameday.

Pretty sure this is all a moot point anyway because I don't think Pruitt is going to be the HC much longer.
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You missed me saying it in the OP. Twice.

This isn't about Pruitt. It's about us. Go read it again.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Sad thing is, this Tennessee fan base is so downtrodden, so eaten up with hating itself and our program, that you'll probably get a ton of support for crowing about how much better you are.

Just keep in mind: 55-20. Not a single Tennessee loss this year was nearly that bad.
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I detest Florida - but a 35 point loss to a 9-2 Oklahoma team that will finish in the top 10 in the AP poll - is not any worse than a 27 point loss at home to a 5-6 Kentucky team.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Sad thing is, this Tennessee fan base is so downtrodden, so eaten up with hating itself and our program, that you'll probably get a ton of support for crowing about how much better you are.

Just keep in mind: 55-20. Not a single Tennessee loss this year was that bad.
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How bad would OU have beaten us in that game? We can’t say anything until we actually beat someone with a pulse.
 
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Godfatha said:
How bad would OU have beaten us in that game? We can’t say anything until we actually beat someone with a pulse.
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There we go, gator99. See? Tennessee fans (supposed, at least) jumping on your "Florida is better than Tennessee and has been forever and will be forever, maybe you'll have patience enough to see a win one day", this Tennessee fan is so eat up with hating himself and his own program that he joined you. That he backed your play.

Good job. You and the trolls are certainly winning on these boards.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
In a thread about the fan base (not Pruitt), you responded to a post that didn't mention Pruitt. And all you could talk about was Pruitt.
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Beginning to sound like the PF isn't it. No discussion about the topic on hand just Orange man bad........Bama man bad. I thought you were dead on 82. The 24/7 information, want it now, championships every year, I've been a fan since the 90's crowd unfortunately is who you are dealing with.

The FF used to be a good place to come and get info.....now all these guys talk about is fahr (insert coach's name) because we ain't dun got a trophy in his first two years. They do not realize that all of the posts simply reinforce the point you were making.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
You totally missed his point.
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What, that the roster was much improved yet the only option at QB was bad? Seems to me an improved roster wouldn't have one bad QB and worse on it.

And I get Bailey missed spring and preseason practice. But he was available from September on and didn't get meaningful gametime until December. All while JG continued to be a terrible QB
 
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EZE said:
You have no basis whatsoever for that hypothesis. It is at best a blind guess.
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I prefer to see it as an opinion.
A hypothesis usually has some facts referenced.
An opinion is free for all to have.
A lot of posters don't know the difference and don't care. Only their opinions matter and to them they are facts.
 
#95
#95
tnutater said:
The Vols do not have the roster talent to be competitive in the SEC.
Only the stargazers could believe that we do.
The NFL draft proves our talent level every year.
If we had our 4 cupcake wins and not the two extra losses the SEC laid on us, we have 7 wins.
Within a reasonable expectation of our talent level.
Us Vol fanatics are NEVER reasonable.
FARH da Coach!!!!
Freeze or Bust!!!
Gruden, Soon!!!
Regardless of the opinions of some on here, I guarantee no head coach is a deity.
Turning swords into plowshares or our roster into champions is beyond the reach of mere mortals.
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so you just contradicted yourself with the first sentence, I thought we had the talent?


yet Pruitt lost to 2 of those cupcakes last season.....but please continue to try to pump up a lame duck coach. There is a reason he cant keep assistant coaches for more than a year.
 
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The fans that keep up with not just who but how we have hired HC's are the ones that I think are leading the charge for a change not only in the coach but the method. Granted when Kiffin left that put us in a terrible spot but even after we fired Dooley we hire all these high dollar experts to recommend a coach and this is what we get ? It seems we get the candidates, then are unwilling to pay the money the top coaches want but we are willing to over pay for what we get.
 
#99
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thistime said:
The fans that keep up with not just who but how we have hired HC's are the ones that I think are leading the charge for a change not only in the coach but the method. Granted when Kiffin left that put us in a terrible spot but even after we fired Dooley we hire all these high dollar experts to recommend a coach and this is what we get ? It seems we get the candidates, then are unwilling to pay the money the top coaches want but we are willing to over pay for what we get.
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It feels like we have either (1) not had a plan or (2) had a terrible plan, the last four times we had to hire a coach.

Let's look at it, we wanted to go brash, young, and different after Fulmer, which gave us Kiffin and a year 1 exit. I don't even really blame him that much anymore, because he was young, immature, and felt like he was on top of the world.

We had no plan after Kiffin, and that gave us Dooley because we scrambled.

Following Dooley - who was coaching a lame duck year in 2012 - we didn't have a guy ready to accept the job when we had to fire him (which was the inevitable conclusion to that year). This gave us Butch, after a five hour interview in a hotel room with Dave Hart.

We inexcusably didn't have a candidate ready to take the job after watching Butch coach the worst season in program history. We should have ignited the search after Vandy the year before, and had a proven winner ready to go. But, Bahama John Currie's plan was to hire Greg Schiano, so that falls in the "terrible plan" category.

Now, we clearly have no plan once again. Pruitt is twisting in the wind while we just wait on, what? Do we expect this investigation to conclude soon? Why are we doing this stupid BS again?
 
#100
#100
VFL-82-JP said:
Listen, alligator. Fan of some other school.

They need you over at gatorzrulez.com or wherever you come from. You know, to talk about stuff like this:

"Oklahoma is a good matchup but they're not on our level. They're not SEC. They're not the Florida Gators. So we should put on a good show."
-- Florida LB James Houston IV on playing Oklahoma in the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic.
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Come on man...I though you were better than the "GET OFF AR BOARD gator!"

That's bush league.
 
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