Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Blake25p]

Good point, and Gus didn't recruit Salter, so it'd kind of be like the same effect. The QBs that Gus has hand-picked and recruited all stunk.

I believe Auburn was a factor in his recruitment and he chose us over Auburn and Baylor.

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

-Trey Biddy

 

[snowvols]

Malzahn is garbage, but still better than Pruitt.

 

[TrippieRedd]

I believe Auburn was a factor in his recruitment and he chose us over Auburn and Baylor.

Salter and Nix are pretty similar QB's, just saying. Not trying to get involved in the discussion.

 

[MarcoVol]

Honest question, does Gus actually let his staff, you know, coach or is he like Pruitt in the sense that he tries to do everything?

Gus always got his hands on the offense.

Malzahn's genius ran out and his book on offense never came with a second volume. He struggled weighing his roots as a playcaller with the need to oversee an entire program. And as he flip-flopped his position calling plays, opposing coaches studied what he did and evolved, while Malzahn stubbornly remained the same.


Also this is my problem with Gus:

There were a number of reasons Gus Malzahn was fired by Auburn on Sunday after eight up-and-down seasons, but none was as ironic or as frustrating as the regression of the offense. The struggle there represented the crumbling of the foundation of the program and the core of Malzahn as a coach.

Why did Auburn pay Gus Malzahn $21.7 million to walk away? Offensive woes top list

 

[Blake25p]

Needs to bring Steele with him

I’m going to assume they’re not on great terms, didn’t Steele help get Gus fired?

 

[Ten_Titans]

I know some of you don’t want Gus and he wouldn’t be my first choice but you know what he would be? A massive upgrade.

To someone who doesn't watch Auburn games, maybe. Auburn to this day is Beldar's biggest win. They are the defense and offense versions of the same coach.

 

[snowvols]

Salter in a Malzahn offense

Stidham and Nix were much higher rated versions of Salter and he did nothing with them.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

I feel like that there is a joke going straight over my head, LOL. I don't think she's an Okie, but I guess she could be.

Merle Haagard

I'm only catching 2-3 pages at a time. Were out shopping and watching a movie and my wife is ticked off. I feel like I'm cheating on her with VN.

Here she comes.....I gotta go


GBO

 

[Dudley Smith]

Mullen interviewing with the Falcons tomorrow

 

[DustyRockSolid]

I know some of you don’t want Gus and he wouldn’t be my first choice but you know what he would be? A massive upgrade.

Gus will not succeed here. There are a few really good hires out there. Gus isn't one of them.

 

[BruinVol]

Mullen interviewing with the Falcons tomorrow

Boom

 

[VolGee4]

As you keep saying and you are 100% correct about, the NFL is a level playing field. Tremendous parity, and it's constructed so that every team goes 8-8 every year. For purposes of discussing the Tennessee job, 9-7 at the Buffalo Bills one year isn't more impressive than Mullen's 7, 8, and occasionally 9 or 10 win seasons at Miss St over a 9-year period. College football is not level playing field, and isn't designed to be. You have to grade coaches that coach at smaller programs on a curve in college. The NFL is much more of a "you are what your record says you are" league than college football.

That's not how I would interpret it at all...Marrone was at two historical below average organizations within the parity of the NFL. There are all-time great organizations, several all-time terrible organizations, and a bunch in the middle. He was at two that were below. Bad draft picks, bad GM decisions. But then took them to above average results. Won 9 games in Buffalo in many years and took Jags to playoffs for first time in 10 years.

You place that kind of coaching into a program that will get better players than Vandy, Mizzou, USCe, and UK, and he will use that acumen to almost always beat them. Then, you give him enough talent, and he has shown that he can beat teams with better talent. He beat the 13-3 Pittsburgh Steelers in the playoffs. Steelers had Bell and Antonio Brown.

He has shown he can win with lesser talent. When you give him better talent and a better understanding of how to scheme opponents, you get a coach who can be successful. Anyway, it's all speculation. It won't happen, and we will probably discuss candidates again in a year.

 

[Ten_Titans]

I agree that it could work. He needs to bring in an OC that he will let provide input or call plays. Might get Steele afterall.

You realize Steele and Gus now despise each other after that Auburn search, right?

Gus could not get Steele or anyone that was on Steele's staff.

 

[Blake25p]

Stidham and Nix were much higher rated versions of Salter and he did nothing with them.

I’m not here for this negatively.

 

[VOLUNTEERSZN]

This forum: “anyone but Pruitt”

Someone: “brings up Doug Marrone”

The forum: “except that guy”

 

[VolGee4]

You realize Steele and Gus now despise each other after that Auburn search, right?

Gus could not get Steele or anyone that was on Steele's staff.

Yea, didn't think about that, if true. Well, if Fulmer likes Steele so much, then why would he hire Gus?

 

[05_never_again]

Stidham and Nix were much higher rated versions of Salter and he did nothing with them.

He had a good first year with Stidham. Won the SEC West.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

Honestly I just did this this morning because I was bored. I do think theres about a 30% of a new coach next year but only because of a combination of 1) me wanting one and 2) that attorney they got is known as the coach contract killer so who knows! But if it does happen and we select Douglas Marrone thats the end of Tennessee football.

There are a few really good hires that we could actually make but we will end up with someone like gus or marrone. Tennessee just sucks like that. Chadwell, napier, freeze, Campbell and ficklle out there but tennessee gonna tennessee.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Does anyone know if that quote from Tyra Haag is legitimate? Is there a link somewhere?

 

[TrippieRedd]

Gus always got his hands on the offense.

Malzahn's genius ran out and his book on offense never came with a second volume. He struggled weighing his roots as a playcaller with the need to oversee an entire program. And as he flip-flopped his position calling plays, opposing coaches studied what he did and evolved, while Malzahn stubbornly remained the same.


Also this is my problem with Gus:

There were a number of reasons Gus Malzahn was fired by Auburn on Sunday after eight up-and-down seasons, but none was as ironic or as frustrating as the regression of the offense. The struggle there represented the crumbling of the foundation of the program and the core of Malzahn as a coach.

Why did Auburn pay Gus Malzahn $21.7 million to walk away? Offensive woes top list

Thanks. Needs to hire Major from Bama to be his OC/QB Coach and stay away. I'd be happy with that, but the chances are slim. Guess we will see.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Yea, didn't think about that, if true. Well, if Fulmer likes Steele so much, then why would he hire Gus?

Exactly. If everyone is so enamored by Auburn's ability to win 8 games, just hire the reason they were able to win 8 games, not the reason they couldn't win more.

I don't want Steele. But hiring Steele would at least mean they took 2 seconds to understand why Auburn's situation was the way that it was.

 

[Catbone]

I SWEAR TO God if Freeze goes to Florida I will do nothing but be very angry and complain more.

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

We’re gonna end up competing with Florida during a coaching search again.

 

[BogeyVol]

He’s capable of winning 9-10 games a year and the SEC East. I’ll take it.

We can do better... I live in Birmingham, met him, watched him and his gimmick offense, listened to his interviews, and I've listened to virtually all my Auburn fan friends b!tch the last 8 years about him. I'm ready to have someone to be excited about. He ain't that guy...