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#59,153
Love the full turn here into "anyone but Pruitt" when Doug Marrone would be an absolutely atrocious hire for this program.

WHY HE SUCKS
Had a winning record twice in four years at Syracuse when they were still the Big East. 25-25 overall & a .388 winning percentage in the NFL.
As an NFL HC he had a winning record twice from 2013 to 2020. Think VN would be cool with another slow rebuild?
From 2013 to 2020 his offenses have ranked in the NFL (out of 32) - 19th, 26th, 18th, 23rd, 6th, 27th, 20th, and 28th.
From 2015 to 2020 his bread & butter, the offensive line, has ranked in the NFL (out of 32) - 19th, 22nd, 15th, 22nd, 26th, and 24th.
He quit on the Buffalo Bills in 2014 when there was a change in ownership, opted out of his contract instead of trying to forge new relationships with stakeholders (something similar that we have heard about Pruitt & Boosters)

I don't get the hype. He worked one year with Fulmer and has run an archaic offense since Buffalo & only recruited one 4* in his tenure at Syracuse. This would be an objectively terrible hire no matter how bad VN wants a shiny new coach (myself included.)
 
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Z06VolinWV said:
Just spoke to one of my reps that’s good friends with Doc, and he said admin felt that Doc had reached his ceiling, and couldn’t do any more?!? I said hard to top COY and conf title, lol. It’s Marshall for fvcks sake.
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Still living in the 90’s when they were winning 11-12 games every year. They forget they were D1-AA back then. If a coach has a couple 10 win seasons at Marshall nowadays, they’re gonna bolt to a bigger job. Holiday hung around. I’m surprised by the move
 
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BruinVol said:
Why was he fired at buff?

That one seems odd
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He wasn't. If I recall, he had a clause in his contract that allowed him to get out if the team was sold. Ralph Wilson died that year, and the team was indeed sold. He opted out. I just read that he interviewed with the Jets thereafter, and it didn't go well. He would have been better than what they have hired since then.
 
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VolGee4 said:
He wasn't. If I recall, he had a clause in his contract that allowed him to get out if the team was sold. Ralph Wilson died that year, and the team was indeed sold. He opted out. I just read that he interviewed with the Jets thereafter, and it didn't go well. He would have been better than what they have hired since then.
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very interesting

thanks
 
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Volsdeep4 said:
Mediocrity for 4 years again. We need a splash hire that will move the needle. With the coaches out there right now he’s bottom tier.
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We aren't attracting a splash hire, maybe Freeze would come here but this admin did not want that baggage, especially coming off this investigation.
 
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rjd970 said:
Agreed. You are what you’re record says. Yet I am hearing things in this thread like Saban was only a .400 coach in the NFL, and Marrone could be another Carrol.

This is lunacy.

Odds are that this will be closer to a Harbaugh type coach, at best.
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The NFL is a whole different ballgame than college football.
 
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VolInDayton said:
How can you view Marrone time at Syracuse a failure when it got him a NFL HC gig?
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It wasn’t a failure but it also wasn’t what netted him the Jaguars gig. More so what he did with the Bills...before inexplicably quitting.
 
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volsfan_17 said:
I could get behind a potential Marrone hire. A guy with experience in the Southeast, and has been a HC in college and the NFL. I'd be curious as to what his coaching staff would look like, but I would think he'd be able to address any culture issues head on and at very least would be the safest bet to 'stabilize the program' for both current and future success.

I also feel that if the perceived indecision taking place behind the scenes within the administration is anywhere close to accurate, that this is the type of hire that would garner more agreement than whomever the 'next big thing' would be from a coaching perspective.

My only question would be how he would recruit, but I'd almost guarantee it would boost the trust factor throughout the program as a whole. Fulmer would trust him to run the football program, and in turn I think Marrone would hire coaches he trusts to do their damn jobs and stay out of the way.

Not a sexy hire by any means, but solid.
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His last experience in the SEC was as an assistant coach 20 years ago. He coached O-lines at Georgia and Tennessee in 2000 and 2001 respectively. He has basically no relevant experience in this conference at all.
 
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@HankHill @LA Vol Stupid question, but with the investigation currently underway, and seemingly taking a long time to wrap up, it is possible that this has been coordinated to coincide with the coaching carousel getting underway this week? I just wonder if there's any connection between the two, especially with this investigation going on for two months now?
 
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InstrumentalVol said:
Because that isn't what marks success? The Jets knowingly hired Adam Gase as their HC does that mean his time as Dolphins HC was a success? No. This is silly thinking.
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So NFL teams hire coaches that they don't think are going to be successful? There are only 32 openings and they are the most coveted jobs. A coach has to show something to get consideration for those jobs.
 
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