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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Aight, here's something to hold us over until we get some news one way or the other. Hopefully it's coming today.

Your avi? Why did you choose it? Mine's obvious. Smokey wants Freeze in Knoxville. What about yours?
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I like listening to Trippie Redd and I like face palms, seems like all I do on Saturdays.
 
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vol81 said:
Relationships with hs kids and their coaches are cultivated over time. It’s not plug and play as your post suggests. Part of what happened to butch was he botched those relationships in many cases. Pruitt has not. To think a new guy can come in and just grab those 22 kids is short sided. This is not a Madden game.
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I agree, but the band aid is going to have to be ripped.

This year, or next year, we all know it's coming.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Aight, here's something to hold us over until we get some news one way or the other. Hopefully it's coming today.

Your avi? Why did you choose it? Mine's obvious. Smokey wants Freeze in Knoxville. What about yours?
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Thought that kid’s shirt was cool. Before that I had the Riot/Nike swoosh. I should go back to that.
 
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jakez4ut said:
meh. if the indecision is as it's described, then i doubt anything happens, and you have to wonder what they're really gonna don in making any adjustments to the staff....and what it means headed in to next year, and beyond.

it's not impossible it turns around, but it likely requires pruitt changing some things he's not ever been willing to change or had a need to, so he's believed these as absolute truths, as far as his basic philosophy goes.

i think as usual, this ends relatively badly, and in 5 or 6 years we'll all be looking back at this just like we do the end of the 2011, 2015 seasons...woulda/coulda/shoulda.

it just doesn't sound like we have anyone over there that leads. a "get behind me, i know the way" guy....just a lot of indecision and uncertainty, as usual.
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one other thing. imo, and experience, when you have, supposedly, this much indecision, and no one stepping out in front, that usually means one of the motives behind not making a decision is to have the abilty to assign blame later on to those that do ultimately make the decision.

i hear about boyd and plowman and how they're 'different'. now would be a good time to show exactly how they're different....
 
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jackcrevol said:
Forty deux.

I recall Questers used to meet at old Bailey's in West Knox. Was living in Knoxville at time. Never could quite compell myself to meet up at that crap hole. Lloyd braun, Cajun, rednav, man the .25 was a wild place back then.

Did used to do VQ cookouts and pre game stuff. Honestly id rather watch paint dry than socialize.
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I'm 58, you must be an 'old soul'...
 
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Orange Studs said:
So Fulmer talked about the present HC going to a bowl and Spring practice. That was early December I believe. Not sure what he was suppose to say at that time since CP is still HC but I'll give you that one. So what has he said since in reassuring that CP will be back? Cause I haven't seen anything since the investigation broke.
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The investigation news broke just after kickoff of the A&M game (our last game) on December 19th. Our bowl was announced on December 20th (not exactly early December) which is when Fulmer commented/mentioned CJP at sorting practice in 2021. Not sure where you're trying to go with this thought process but that is the time-line.
 
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HankHill said:
I agree With him. There’s really nothing else to do in Knoxville on a Saturday. Our fans are always gonna pack the house and buy gear.
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I think what you’re gonna see are more people just watching from homes rather than planning a day around travel, getting in and out of Fort Sanders, and sweating ass in the stands for noon kickoffs in September and early October.

I know that I have no interest in making that drive to watch opposing fans treat a game day like a pleasant stop on their way to Gatlinburg. And I damned sure ain’t buying season tickets any time soon.
 
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vol81 said:
Relationships with hs kids and their coaches are cultivated over time. It’s not plug and play as your post suggests. Part of what happened to butch was he botched those relationships in many cases. Pruitt has not. To think a new guy can come in and just grab those 22 kids is short sided. This is not a Madden game.
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Prospects also don't want to play for a bad team which is why even though we had relationships with TID, Green, Mims, and Mondon. We struck out, 0/4, and additionally lost two of our best recruits in McGhee and Wolfe (won't count Lewis here--but include him if you want as well.

It all starts with coaches and coaching. You need wins and development above all else. If you develop players and win ballgames, you will get recruits--especially as an SEC team
 
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RiotVol said:
I think what you’re gonna see are more people just watching from homes rather than planning a day around travel, getting in and out of Fort Sanders, and sweating ass in the stands for noon kickoffs in September and early October.

I know that I have no interest in making that drive to watch opposing fans treat a game day like a pleasant stop on their way to Gatlinburg. And I damned sure ain’t buying season tickets any time soon.
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Agree with this 100%
 
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RiotVol said:
I think what you’re gonna see are more people just watching from homes rather than planning a day around travel, getting in and out of Fort Sanders, and sweating ass in the stands for noon kickoffs in September and early October.

I know that I have no interest in making that drive to watch opposing fans treat a game day like a pleasant stop on their way to Gatlinburg. And I damned sure ain’t buying season tickets any time soon.
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Did you buy them before?
 
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It’s clear to me now that there are two camps from which people are getting info:
- one camp backs Pruitt and thinks he’s safe;
- the other doesn’t and can’t imagine Pruitt coming back.
NOTE: this refers to admins/boosters close to the program, NOT fans or Volnation members.

I think neither camp knows what Boyd/Plowman are going to decide, and thus the constant hedging.
 
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CoachClick said:
I can tell you that THIS season ticket holder will NOT be a 2021 season ticket holder if Pruitt is retained.

I also know around 8 others that are stating the same.
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I know a bunch as well. If you take the emotion out of it - why spend all that money for bad sports entertainment in the prime season of the fall in the Smokies? Have to disagree with Hank on that one. There are plenty of things for people to do in east TN that time of year. Yes - the people who go to a game or two and buy tickets for next to nothing will go. But that is not what makes it happen for the AD. It's the loyal donors/season ticket holders. That's what has been trending strongly down due to the stupidity. Do you think they would be offering three game packages and such if they were selling all the season tickets they needed? Nah.
 
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vol81 said:
Relationships with hs kids and their coaches are cultivated over time. It’s not plug and play as your post suggests. Part of what happened to butch was he botched those relationships in many cases. Pruitt has not. To think a new guy can come in and just grab those 22 kids is short sided. This is not a Madden game.
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You realize he will have almost an entire year to build those relationships right? Besides who's to say whoever we hire won't already have some of those relationships. The fact is the 22 class has a way better chance of being good got UT if there's a new coach now then a month before signing day. That's just common sense.
 
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Jimmy Football said:
It’s clear to me now that there are two camps from which people are getting info:
- one camp backs Pruitt and thinks he’s safe;
- the other doesn’t and can’t imagine Pruitt coming back.

I think neither camp knows what Boyd/Plowman are going to decide, and thus the constant hedging.
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Yes, the only thing that makes sense is that Boyd and Plowman have yet to make a decision in either direction.

That has to be coming this week.
 
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