Hugh Freeze mega thread and poll [merged]

Do you want Tennessee to hire Hugh Freeze?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1,219 77.4%

  • No

    Votes: 360 22.9%
  • Total voters
    1,574
#1,730
#1,730
Vol_from_86 said:
I do think your concerns about him getting caught at Tennessee are valid. Personally, I think Tennessee is better at cheating than Ole Miss because of some unspoken systems we have in place. At least I hope so. Knowing what I know that transpired back in the 90s, the fact that we signed Bryce Brown, and seeing how well Pruitt has recruited despite no proven on-field success tells me that it goes on at Tennessee already.

As for what he's done at Liberty, for them to be 2-1 against the ACC is a big deal and they'd be 3-0 if NC State hadn't of blocked a game-winning FG. We're basically talking about a JUCO team beating ACC teams. That is a very significant accomplishment, IMO, up there with beating Saban 2 times while at Ole Miss.
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My concern is not about his coaching, not at all.

My concern is this: the Vols hire Freeze. After several dismal seasons, a good recruiting class or two, things REALLY turn around. The SEC sees this...... and hmmmm...... they start getting pressure from other programs about Freeze because he's got history and while "The UT System" is good, Freeze is an easy target to zero in on.

Add to that the "Fulmer ratted out Bama" history and I think you've got the makings of some easy payback for Bama if Freeze is at UT.
 
#1,731
#1,731
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
My concern is not about his coaching, not at all.

My concern is this: the Vols hire Freeze. After several dismal seasons, a good recruiting class or two, things REALLY turn around. The SEC sees this...... and hmmmm...... they start getting pressure from other programs about Freeze because he's got history and while "The UT System" is good, Freeze is an easy target to zero in on.

Add to that the "Fulmer ratted out Bama" history and I think you've got the makings of some easy payback for Bama if Freeze is at UT.
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That's entirely possible, but are we willing to pass on a proven coach who wants to be here for fear of what might happen? Or do we do what we think gives us the best chance to win and mitigate the risk by keeping a close eye on everything? I'd argue that even if we hire him and eventually get into trouble with the SEC/NCAA it's worth it if he brings life to the program. Ole Miss was dead before Freeze got there. You think they regret hiring him? Nope. They still love him in Oxford.
 
#1,732
#1,732
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
My concern is not about his coaching, not at all.

My concern is this: the Vols hire Freeze. After several dismal seasons, a good recruiting class or two, things REALLY turn around. The SEC sees this...... and hmmmm...... they start getting pressure from other programs about Freeze because he's got history and while "The UT System" is good, Freeze is an easy target to zero in on.

Add to that the "Fulmer ratted out Bama" history and I think you've got the makings of some easy payback for Bama if Freeze is at UT.
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Its not gonna take any success recruiting to get that attention. Hes gonna get that when he walks in the door. Thats what happens when you get caught. You no longer get the benefit.

What makes it worse is when you try to blame it on the last guy, he defends himself and in the process he finds out you ve been using your company phone for fun time... more stupid.

All we know about Freeze right now, he cheats, he's not very smart about it, and 2/3 of his wins at Ole Miss are no longer recognized. Other than that, I guess he's a pretty good coach.
 
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#1,733
#1,733
Vol_from_86 said:
That's entirely possible, but are we willing to pass on a proven coach who wants to be here for fear of what might happen? Or do we do what we think gives us the best chance to win and mitigate the risk by keeping a close eye on everything? I'd argue that even if we hire him and eventually get into trouble with the SEC/NCAA it's worth it if he brings life to the program. Ole Miss was dead before Freeze got there. You think they regret hiring him? Nope. They still love him in Oxford.
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Only the dummies still love him in lil Miss, similar to those fans of TN petitioning for us to fire our coach and hire back Pearl.
 
#1,735
#1,735
Headvol said:
And they’re still in a better place than we are right now !!
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Right now?
Right now they are 4 years removed from Hugh's final 5-7 season and the aftermath that left them with Matt Luke because nobody else wanted the job.

Right now, they are in a better place because of the current coach.
 
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#1,736
#1,736
PulaskiVolFan said:
Only the dummies still love him in lil Miss, similar to those fans of TN petitioning for us to fire our coach and hire back Pearl.
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You sound like someone who doesn't associate with many Ole Miss people. I live an hour from Oxford... they're glad they had him while they did, just hate that he got caught up in the mess he was caught up in. There's no hard feelings toward Freeze in Oxford. If it weren't for him, they'd still be hovering around 2-10, 3-7 like they were before he got there.
 
#1,740
#1,740
Matt Campbell is the one that would be "the guy" that could bring all of the fans together IMO. He don't have the Freeze baggage and he's a heck of a coach. Fickell is also a very solid and proven head coach. I would definitely take Freeze but the guy is a little too much like Butch Jones for my liking in that he really cares a lot about what everyone thinks of him and he's pretty thin skinned from reports. Plus he's got some baggage but at this point that wouldn't stop me from hiring him over that reason alone. If you want the hot board name get Jamey Chadwell. You could do a lot worse - see exhibit A in what we have now. If you want the guy who can right the ship for 5 years and rebuild then you go get Doc Holliday from Marshall before he retires. There's definitely choices that are realistic out there.
 
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#1,741
#1,741
SmokeyDog1973 said:
It’s real simple either we either make a big time hire like Freeze or somebody else like him or this football program is dead forever.
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Lately the problem has been that no good/proven coach wanted to come to UT. They all turned UT down. Now finally a proven good coach comes along who, on most accounts, wants the job badly. And actually wants to be here. You couldnt come up with an easier path back to relevance. And that is exactly why it won’t happen. Because UT.
 
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#1,743
#1,743
Freeze
Franklin
Campbell
Herman
Chadwell
Malzahn

any of those would be better than what we've hired in the past 10 years
 
#1,747
#1,747
[QUOTE="dcibrando, post: 19059267, member: 5177
Freeze
Chadwell
any of those would be better than what we've hired in the past 10 years[/QUOTE]

FYP
 
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