Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[BruinVol]

Vols only a 5.5 pt favorite tonight.
That’s a very low line for a cross country trip to Knoxville.

Going to be a stiff test

 

[tnktm]

I wonder if some are fans of chaos instead of fans of the vols.

 

[05_never_again]

Because our boosters don’t care about anything other than posturing and slapping their names on buildings. They are happy to see the program fail and to use Fulmer as a human shield when the fans lash back because the truth is that they are the ones not ponying up. They’ve hung every AD we’ve had out to dry and never once taken responsibility when we know for a fact that many times they have hand picked the coach while the AD has been a figurehead. We operate assbackwards and as long as fans keep buying it they will keep doing it.

The Tennessee booster community is the epitome of too many chiefs, not enough Indians. It is surpassed in that regard perhaps only by Texas.

I think our boosters want to be successful, but what they really want is to be able to say that we are successful because it was their idea. They care more about getting pats on the back for their good idea rather than being successful.

 

[VolNRaleighNC]

I don't get this eruption of vitriol. Nothing has changed this week. UT has been staying the course all along, with no intention of doing anything else. Opt-outs are negligible. The recruiting class is amazingly intact. The guys we need to stick are sticking. Most of our top recruits, including Salter, still plan on signing early. Brooks is still solid. Staying the course and focusing on playing and recruiting is exactly what stable, unemotional leadership should do right now.

Losing to Vandy would do more harm than good. And actually wanting to lose to Vandy and posting it on a message board that recruits read...

Um... Pruitt’s still here. Problem numero uno. Whatever gets him gone.

 

[Johnny Majors' Ghost]

Vols only a 5.5 pt favorite tonight.
That’s a very low line for a cross country trip to Knoxville.

Going to be a stiff test

 

[VOLUNTEERSZN]

Wonder if true.

Tennessee has a lot of talent. Besides Alabama, Florida, and Georgia we have had more talent than any other team we have played including Auburn.

We are just really poorly coached.

I'd like to see what a good HC could do with this team.

As far as “Raw talent” I’d argue we have more than FL. They just have an elite college QB, better coaching staff and generational TE prospect.

 

[james_govols]

The volquest chat last night was not positive on Pruittb that is a fact

Cliff notes?

 

[scvolfan7]

I don't get this eruption of vitriol. Nothing has changed this week. UT has been staying the course all along, with no intention of doing anything else. Opt-outs are negligible. The recruiting class is amazingly intact. The guys we need to stick are sticking. Most of our top recruits, including Salter, still plan on signing early. Brooks is still solid. Staying the course and focusing on playing and recruiting is exactly what stable, unemotional leadership should do right now.

Losing to Vandy would do more harm than good. And actually wanting to lose to Vandy and posting it on a message board that recruits read...

Why should anyone give a damn about recruiting? This coaching staff hasn’t shown the ability to develop talent or get young talent on the field. There’s no narrative to make these clowns look good

 

[Orange Studs]

I don't get this eruption of vitriol. Nothing has changed this week. UT has been staying the course all along, with no intention of doing anything else. Opt-outs are negligible. The recruiting class is amazingly intact. The guys we need to stick are sticking. Most of our top recruits, including Salter, still plan on signing early. Brooks is still solid. Staying the course and focusing on playing and recruiting is exactly what stable, unemotional leadership should do right now.

Losing to Vandy would do more harm than good. And actually wanting to lose to Vandy and posting it on a message board that recruits read...

No matter how frustrated I feel about CP or how bad I want him gone, I am not going to cheer for Vandy or any other team.

 

[Jimmy Football]

I don't get this eruption of vitriol. Nothing has changed this week. UT has been staying the course all along, with no intention of doing anything else. Opt-outs are negligible. The recruiting class is amazingly intact. The guys we need to stick are sticking. Most of our top recruits, including Salter, still plan on signing early. Brooks is still solid. Staying the course and focusing on playing and recruiting is exactly what stable, unemotional leadership should do right now.

Losing to Vandy would do more harm than good. And actually wanting to lose to Vandy and posting it on a message board that recruits read...

I think the vitriol is precisely because nothing has changed. We’re still comically woeful in every phase of the game, and we seem perfectly content to carry on this mess into 2021.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

If it means we get Freeze then I will allow it

How many times do you people need to read or hear that even if a coaching change was the order, Freeze would not be the guy?

The elevation of Freeze to demigod status by misguided fans is comical. You all act like he’s Urban or Saban.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

I don't get this eruption of vitriol. Nothing has changed this week. UT has been staying the course all along, with no intention of doing anything else. Opt-outs are negligible. The recruiting class is amazingly intact. The guys we need to stick are sticking. Most of our top recruits, including Salter, still plan on signing early. Brooks is still solid. Staying the course and focusing on playing and recruiting is exactly what stable, unemotional leadership should do right now.

Losing to Vandy would do more harm than good. And actually wanting to lose to Vandy and posting it on a message board that recruits read...

Getting rid of pruitt is the only thing that matters anymore. It doesn't matter who we recruit. Our head coach doesn't do a good job.

 

[Volsdeep4]

I don't get this eruption of vitriol. Nothing has changed this week. UT has been staying the course all along, with no intention of doing anything else. Opt-outs are negligible. The recruiting class is amazingly intact. The guys we need to stick are sticking. Most of our top recruits, including Salter, still plan on signing early. Brooks is still solid. Staying the course and focusing on playing and recruiting is exactly what stable, unemotional leadership should do right now.

Losing to Vandy would do more harm than good. And actually wanting to lose to Vandy and posting it on a message board that recruits read...

The eruption is coming from the sh!t show we see every Saturday and y’all just keep trotting the same ish out there every freaking weekend.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

I wonder if some are fans of chaos instead of fans of the vols.

This! Let's drive this b!tch all the way into the ground, turn this place into a real sh!t hole. Go ahead and let's extend Pruitt 5 more years to show stability.

 

[GojiraVol17]

As far as “Raw talent” I’d argue we have more than FL. They just have an elite college QB, better coaching staff and generational TE prospect.

You’re about to get crucified by the negavols lol

 

[amavol2]

Fulmer is tied to JP success at this point. Fulmer has crossed the line a few times as it relates to his AD role and some big time boosters are well aware of this when/if the time comes to ensure he is shown the door if the opportunity presents itself.[/QUOTE
Opportunity is knocking the door down!

 

[Gilbert]

I don't get this eruption of vitriol. Nothing has changed this week. UT has been staying the course all along, with no intention of doing anything else. Opt-outs are negligible. The recruiting class is amazingly intact. The guys we need to stick are sticking. Most of our top recruits, including Salter, still plan on signing early. Brooks is still solid. Staying the course and focusing on playing and recruiting is exactly what stable, unemotional leadership should do right now.

Losing to Vandy would do more harm than good. And actually wanting to lose to Vandy and posting it on a message board that recruits read...

If this were year one or maybe two, I could understand and get behind staying the course even though this has been a terrible year. This is year 3 though. We know it’s over because we’ve seen this before. Pruitt isn’t a long term solution here, whether it be this year or next. Staying the course is just delaying the inevitable and digging a deeper hole.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

I don't get this eruption of vitriol. Nothing has changed this week. UT has been staying the course all along, with no intention of doing anything else. Opt-outs are negligible. The recruiting class is amazingly intact. The guys we need to stick are sticking. Most of our top recruits, including Salter, still plan on signing early. Brooks is still solid. Staying the course and focusing on playing and recruiting is exactly what stable, unemotional leadership should do right now.

Losing to Vandy would do more harm than good. And actually wanting to lose to Vandy and posting it on a message board that recruits read...

So you've missed the part where the product on the field is awful? Got it

 

[Volsfaninva917]

So you've missed the part where the product on the field is awful? Got it

And the part where we are charged Bama prices for Vandy entertainment

 

[LA Vol]

I think the vitriol is precisely because nothing has changed. We’re still comically woeful in every phase of the game, and we seem perfectly content to carry on this mess into 2021.

The season isn't over. Holding a team, a staff and a recruiting class together is still a thing.

 

[Ron Swanson]

I don't get this eruption of vitriol. Nothing has changed this week. UT has been staying the course all along, with no intention of doing anything else. Opt-outs are negligible. The recruiting class is amazingly intact. The guys we need to stick are sticking. Most of our top recruits, including Salter, still plan on signing early. Brooks is still solid. Staying the course and focusing on playing and recruiting is exactly what stable, unemotional leadership should do right now.

Losing to Vandy would do more harm than good. And actually wanting to lose to Vandy and posting it on a message board that recruits read...

Recruiting class intact? You haven’t noticed the handful of late offers to no name 2 stars last minute to fill the class? I would normally be optimistic about that and talk up how they’ll be developed and coached up by our staff. But I’ve seen none of that happen with the current staff so unless you’re a 5 star elite best of the best and don’t need further development, coming to play for this current staff isn’t a good idea and they won’t help win games in the SEC.

Unemotional leadership? So it doesn’t matter to leadership that this coaching staff can’t seem to develop its players, can’t coach them to win, can’t manage the roster properly, cant game plan to their strengths and expose the opponents weaknesses, frankly, they can’t seem to do anything required of the job. They might have not seen enough but the rest of us have. Our staff is trash, our leadership is trash, our entire program is trash and that tends to bring out emotions from people that actually care, like fans.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

How many times do you people need to read or hear that even if a coaching change was the order, Freeze would not be the guy?

The elevation of Freeze to demigod status by misguided fans is comical. You all act like he’s Urban or Saban.

I know he isn't urban or saban. I also know if he was our head coach, we would be winning games. We would actually be competitive and fun to watch.

 

[Volsdeep4]

I don't get this eruption of vitriol. Nothing has changed this week. UT has been staying the course all along, with no intention of doing anything else. Opt-outs are negligible. The recruiting class is amazingly intact. The guys we need to stick are sticking. Most of our top recruits, including Salter, still plan on signing early. Brooks is still solid. Staying the course and focusing on playing and recruiting is exactly what stable, unemotional leadership should do right now.

Losing to Vandy would do more harm than good. And actually wanting to lose to Vandy and posting it on a message board that recruits read...

That’s great if recruits read these boards. Then they know they will be playing for a fan base that wants them to succeed and us as fans will always cheer for them. But if they can’t see this bald headed cuck for what he is then, it is what it is. We are doing this for the players too. We want a good product every Saturday, which in turns means the players are developing, which also means they get better draft stock.

 

[05_never_again]

As far as “Raw talent” I’d argue we have more than FL. They just have an elite college QB, better coaching staff and generational TE prospect.

Tennessee and Florida were equally talented when Mullen and Pruitt took over their respective programs. Can't remember who, but someone did an analysis of the players currently on both rosters and Tennessee had something like a .02 or .04 percentage point higher average star ranking than Florida did.

Not sure what that number would be today though.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

And the part where we are charged Bama prices for Vandy entertainment

Exactly what I was just coming back to say. We are charged for calamari, while getting fed chicken ****, and the university is paying the price of a basic hamburger.