Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[butchna]

Both more successful than Dooley at their levels. Butch had a longer track record of success at the G5 level than both Napier and Chadwell though. It shouldn't be discounted though that he followed Brian Kelly at both Central Michigan and Cincinnati.

Butch coached at the G5 level 6 years and was a conference champ or co-champ 4 times. Napier's only been at Louisiana 3 years; he was .500 his first year, lost the conference title game last year, and he'll have another chance this year. Chadwell had multiple playoff berths at the Division II/FCS level, and has been at the G5 level just 2 years.

If our admin had a track record of finding up and coming coaches, I'd be totally with either Chadwell or Napier. And they probably both are pretty good coaches. I just don't trust our people with making such a hire though. I think they have no clue what to look for as far as potential, so they need to go with someone that has already proven it.

I simply don’t remember signature wins from either. Good points.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I had worse post I had to delete


I read “opts out” and thought that meant he quit. I don’t understand why this is an “opt out” when it appears be an injury and he’s going to play next year. It’s a damn injury and not an “opting out “

Probably so he can save the year of eligibility. Seems a player has to specifically state in some manner they are opting out in order to be able to not count this year. I'm sure they also have to maintain grades and be in good standings with their school.


In short quitting to purse the NFL and then having scouts say "you need another year" isn't likely to fly if that player didn't even attend class this year.

 

[BruinVol]

The fact that he couldn’t incorporate the SEC’s leading returning rusher into his scheme screamed volumes.

He did and made the kid a **** load of money in game 1.


8 receptions and 158 yards made that kid some serious bank come draft day

 

[butchna]

Progress that he noticed the difference between them and the Chosen One.

 

[BruinVol]

Probably so he can save the year of eligibility. Seems a player has to specifically state in some manner they are opting out in order to be able to not count this year. I'm sure they also have to maintain grades and be in good standings with their school.


In short quitting to purse the NFL and then having scouts say "you need another year" isn't likely to fly if that player didn't even attend class this year.

This year doesn’t count toward eligibility

 

[volatil]

I don’t see a link ?

Here it is

Coach: Jeremy Pruitt
Record: 2-6 this season, 15-18 overall
Contract situation: Signed through 2025 season, owed $12.88 million if fired this year
Pruitt seemingly has lost all momentum from a strong finish in 2019, when Tennessee won its final six games, including the Gator Bowl over Indiana. Tennessee has lost six straight, all by double digits, and still must face No. 5 Texas A&M on Dec. 19.
The Vols' offense has flatlined, failing to produce 20 points since Week 3 and falling short of 30 since a Week 2 win against Missouri. If Pruitt survives, major staff changes on offense are virtually guaranteed.
Tennessee awarded Pruitt a two-year contract extension before the season, an arguably unnecessary decision that would decrease the chances of a dismissal months later. Athletic director Phillip Fulmer remains supportive, and, to be fair, Pruitt is only in his third season, and he still can flip the roster through recruiting and development.
"Fulmer can't afford to [make a change] right now," an industry source said.
The one caveat is if Tennessee falls to winless Vanderbilt this week. A loss to the Commodores could force Tennessee to move on from Pruitt. Tennessee still would draw a good group of candidates, including Liberty's Hugh Freeze.
"If you lose to Vandy, you're done," a program source said.

 

[butchna]

Looks like the JG era is over for good

Good if only to end the “JG starts in 21-26” jokes.

 

[LA Vol]

Cimaglia has a knee injury. We have several starters who've been playing with injuries this season. The weeks off have helped, but it takes a toll.

 

[BruinVol]

Here it is

Thx


Who wrote it ?

 

[Batman1948]

That makes no sense. Is he going to PRACTICE kicking?

It appears he has some sort of injury and he's gonna take some time to rehab. That's my take because his kicking has been suspect all year.

 

[Catbone]

Tennessee
Coach: Jeremy Pruitt
Record: 2-6 this season, 15-18 overall
Contract situation: Signed through 2025 season, owed $12.88 million if fired this year

Pruitt seemingly has lost all momentum from a strong finish in 2019, when Tennessee won its final six games, including the Gator Bowl over Indiana. Tennessee has lost six straight, all by double digits, and still must face No. 5 Texas A&M on Dec. 19.

The Vols' offense has flatlined, failing to produce 20 points since Week 3 and falling short of 30 since a Week 2 win against Missouri. If Pruitt survives, major staff changes on offense are virtually guaranteed.

Tennessee awarded Pruitt a two-year contract extension before the season, an arguably unnecessary decision that would decrease the chances of a dismissal months later. Athletic director Phillip Fulmer remains supportive, and, to be fair, Pruitt is only in his third season, and he still can flip the roster through recruiting and development.

"Fulmer can't afford to [make a change] right now," an industry source said.
The one caveat is if Tennessee falls to winless Vanderbilt this week. A loss to the Commodores could force Tennessee to move on from Pruitt. Tennessee still would draw a good group of candidates, including Liberty's Hugh Freeze.
"If you lose to Vandy, you're done," a program source said.

Still cheering for Vandy. It's a short term huge loss but long term better for the program. A necessary evil.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Cimaglia has a knee injury. We have several starters who've been playing with injuries this season. The weeks off have helped, but it takes a toll.

Watching Pruitt coach a team poorly takes a toll as well

 

[tn88volfan]

That makes no sense. Is he going to PRACTICE kicking?

catch up on Tattoo appointments

 

[KB5252]

Shrout, Bailey and Salter will give us three solid options for next year. UT still hopes to bring in a transfer, but we should be much stronger at QB next year. We could've been stronger this year... but spilt milk.

You can say it, the coach got in the way.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

On Kiffin: I never vilified him for accepting his dream job. I resented the attempted pilfering of EE’s using university issued cell phones and the social media trolling going up to his FAU stint. I agree that he has revisionist regret from leaving us and I also maintain that had a ****** coping mechanism for dealing with that regret.

I still blame Kiffin, Hamilton, and Dooley for the past decade or so of miserable football. People forget he "redecorated" the UT Sports Complex. I don't ever want Lane Kiffin back at UT.

 

[volatil]

Thx


Who wrote it ?

Adam Rittenberg ESPN

 

[Blake25p]

Cimaglia has a knee injury. We have several starters who've been playing with injuries this season. The weeks off have helped, but it takes a toll.

He coming back?

 

[butchna]

 

[SLICKYINC]

I take back my Cimaglia tattoo jokes, kinda...

 

[Devo182]

VN loading extremely slow

Saddest thread on VN ^^^^

Well there's his problem. Gucci is asking some freak guy for help. Maybe that's the IT intern, idk. He should go straight to the top and ask @frank.

 

[Vols4us]

That's exactly what I just said. Leach doesn't really have the personnel yet to run the Air Raid, but he's doing it anyway. That's how he rolls.

It is how he rolls and I'm sure MSU knew that's what would happen when they hired him. Which is what he should be doing after the Moorhead collapse. Just like us, they were already losing. So why adapt to kids that were already losing at what they were recruited to do? Install the system and the holdovers that get it will play, the others can git.

Which is why new HC's should always sweep clean and go youth movement. Take your licks in the first couple of years so you will be ready to roll in Year 3. Jeremy did the opposite. He worked on and blindly supported Botch's veterans. Played them over a lot of the young talent he recruited and here we are...

 

[Jackcrevol]

Vandy put over 400 yards on Florida

Great. Now, if WE lose to them. All bets are off, he doesnt make to the bus.

 

[KB5252]

This thinking is silly to me - although I don't doubt it's true.

"We don't have the money to fire Jeremy Pruitt. Unless he loses one game we've determined is the line in the sand. Then suddenly we have the money."

Either you can do it or you can't. Either you've got the money or you don't.

This is the mentality that gives us losers. Instead of the line in the sand being how we compete with the big three, they've somehow flipped the narrative to "just don't lose to Vanderbilt". It's a losers mentality.

 

[VEKZY]

Still cheering for Vandy. It's a short term huge loss but long term better for the program. A necessary evil.

If losing to Vandy guarantees we move on from Pruitt, it's a no brainer. I'd rather have a chance at being good in the future than a meaningless win over Vandy.

 

[butchna]

I still blame Kiffin, Hamilton, and Dooley for the past decade or so of miserable football. People forget he "redecorated" the UT Sports Complex. I don't ever want Lane Kiffin back at UT. View attachment 328552

I had forgotten about all that! I now remember the quote “The recruits committed to our coaches...not to those YELLOW jerseys.”