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Weird Texas is moving on from Herman...I mean he's lost 3, but OU needed 4 OTs to beat 'em and TCU was just a 2 point loss. Considering all the Covid issues I'd actually be fine with the season they've had, losing 3 games all close and all to quality teams isn't bad at all.

They got the $$$ to chase the white whale that's Urban, most have some sort of information that he's interested to make this move now.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i am. and ftr, i believe 100% pruitt is back next year.

i just don't think that if it became important enough, the extension would stop us from firing him.

but it's not gonna get to that point....there's zero chance they get enough people that matter to that particular process towing in the same direction on 1) actually firing him and 2) to agree on who to target.

and that's not even considering the fact that there's probably a good # of those folks that want no part of the financial burden that scenario could present.
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so you are arguing with yourself now.

No way he gets fired but money isn't a factor?

Money is the ONLY factor.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Weird Texas is moving on from Herman...I mean he's lost 3, but OU needed 4 OTs to beat 'em and TCU was just a 2 point loss. Considering all the Covid issues I'd actually be fine with the season they've had, losing 3 games all close and all to quality teams isn't bad at all.

They got the $$$ to chase the white whale that's Urban, most have some sort of information that he's interested to make this move now.
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Everybody talking like Herman is fired already...tap the breaks folks, one tweet does not fire a coach.
 
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jkleno said:
I said nothing about visiting campus. I stated that some parents aren't going to want their kids to play for someone who made a huge mistake. And as one of the leaders of the university, Freeze is going to have a hard time sitting on the recruits coach and have a mom ask him about it.
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I would ask him about it too of he was sitting on my son's coach.
 
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Vols4us said:
Let's dig that hole a little deeper so we can get out easier. Whatever. None of the players going or coming is going to matter with the leadership and coaching that is there.

Losing does not beget success. It is not a necessary part of the process to winning. Have we not learned that in over a dozen years yet? In fact, other than for an occasional wake-up call purpose, it does the opposite because it become the definition of a team's culture. Then the on-field lack of discipline shows up and then the off-field lack of discipline shows up and then the nasty local media shows up and then recruiting gets worse and the cycle continues on and on. Then UT responds with Coach McGoogle and the hype begins only to repeat the cycle. They cannot and should not allow this to continue one day past Saturday.

Cubbie fans - did you really like being known as the "lovable losers" all those years? Some may, most didn't. So when ownership finally had their fill of it they went out hired the very best in the business at the time - Theo Epstein - away from the Red Sox, who had recently won their first WS in forever with Theo at the helm as well. Theo did what Theo does. They hired the best, gave him control and money, he orchestrated the rest. They got their new tradition of winning and a WS ring. They like it now and don't want to go back to being lovable losers again. They learned you make much more money and are happier when you win consistently.

That's how it is done when your program has become mediocre to bottom feeder - like the Vols have been for some time. Cumulatively, the Vols are like 3 games under .500 since Fulmer's last, terminated season. Up and down, but under the mediocre (Mendoza for baseball fans) line.

Preaching to the choir for some of you, but the hole digging has got to stop first. Then they need call in elite professionals to get out of the hole next. That will cost money and pride. We are not the Tennessee of old anymore. Many of the players were not even alive when we were on top. They were too young to know when we still did some good things after the mountain top.

If Texas hires Urban - we all know where they are headed. The same exists with the SEC top programs - they hired the best proven HC's available. If we want in we have to change from top down. Otherwise we are just pizzin' into the wind and stay the unlovable losers and legions of the miserable.
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Great post. However, I just don't think any big name coach is willing to come here. Texas is different. Austin is different. It seems like we have discussed big name coaches for 13+ years starting with Cowher to Gruden. It seems like we have to either hire a former HC with baggage or throw another dart at the assistant dart board and hope for the best. Great post.
 
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I'm sure the SEC would rather UT play aTm than Vandy. It wouldn't be surprising to see Sankey move up UT-aTm and scrap the Vandy game under the SEC's flex scheduling policy, if aTm wants that to happen. That would have UT playing two potential playoff teams back-to-back, but the SEC doesn't care about irrelevant teams. Sankey is focused on playoff positioning for SEC contenders and playing games he feels are advantageous to that.
 
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Leeleesteeth said:
What if Jim Chaney sat on a coach?
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LA Vol said:
I'm sure the SEC would rather UT play aTm than Vandy. It wouldn't be surprising to see Sankey move up UT-aTm and scrap the Vandy game under the SEC's flex scheduling policy, if aTm wants that to happen. That would have UT playing two potential playoff teams back-to-back, but the SEC doesn't care about irrelevant teams. Sankey is focused on playoff positioning for SEC contenders and playing games he feels are advantageous to that.
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This move kills the Jeremy Pruitt.
 
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VEKZY said:
That would be Tennessee's ceiling if UGA, UF, Bama weren't all miles ahead of us. But the reality is, 15 years of irrelevance takes a toll on your program.
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You can still win 9-11 games a year with those teams being good. It should be expected to beat those teams once every three years. It’s ridiculous that aren’t. Bama maybe not right now, but they will come down to earth once Saban is gone.
 
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LA Vol said:
I'm sure the SEC would rather UT play aTm than Vandy. It wouldn't be surprising to see Sankey move up UT-aTm and scrap the Vandy game under the SEC's flex scheduling policy, if aTm wants that to happen. That would have UT playing two potential playoff teams back-to-back, but the SEC doesn't care about irrelevant teams. Sankey is focused on playoff positioning for SEC contenders and playing games he feels are advantageous to that.
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That can’t be any good for Pruitt. No way.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
TN’s ceiling is national champions. Give us 9-11 wins a year with hope going into every season we could win it all if everything goes right. That’s what TN should always be
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Sure, but not annually. Only Nick Saban is capable of delivering that, or a Dabo type coach if you play in a weak conference.
 
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LA Vol said:
I'm sure the SEC would rather UT play aTm than Vandy. It wouldn't be surprising to see Sankey move up UT-aTm and scrap the Vandy game under the SEC's flex scheduling policy, if aTm wants that to happen. That would have UT playing two potential playoff teams back-to-back, but the SEC doesn't care about irrelevant teams. Sankey is focused on playoff positioning for SEC contenders and playing games he feels are advantageous to that.
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Yep, the bottom feeders are going to be fed to the sharks.

I saw MTSU had their season ended due to COVID related stuff but UAB needs one more game to be eligible to win their CUSA division. So, guess what? MTSU is getting fed to UAB on Sunday this week.
 
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