Should we trust Fulmer to make another hire?

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uncle chewii said:
Your last line is what got us in trouble anyways. Haslams wanted Pruitt and that is our problem. We weren't at a place talent wise when we hired him to hire a big name as it was between Mike Leech, Pruitt, and Schiano and none of those guys have proved anything this year. Yes Leech has put up points but he can't stop others from doing so (remember Dooley yrs). Schiano- well we have more wins than he does. So our choice right now is to have Pruitt and hopefully he can stock the cupboard for the next coach to come in and win.
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Leach had been a winning HC for years, Pruitt never.
Leach in year 1 with 49 players on scholarship had the ball with minutes left and a chance to tie the game against UGA,
Pruitt in year 3 got blew out for the 3rd time.
So we might of been mid pack SEC with leach or better by now or bottom feeders with Pruitt.
They chose wrong.
 
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TJSVOLS said:
Yea,he got where he is by being dumb. He may not be a good head coach but he is not dumb.[/QUOTE]
His area of knowledge is Defense and was successful.
He is retarded when it comes to offense ( proves it every time he starts JG)
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DaddyChad said:
I know some despise Fulmer on here but I personally love the man for what he has done as a coach for this program. That said he’s never been particularly good at hiring assistants. What would lead us to believe he would be good at hiring a head coach? He’s also in over his head it appears in negotiating a contract.

I really think fans just like the idea of a choice other than a puppet to Haslam. But why are we limited to that or Fulmer? As much as I would love to fire Pruitt and get another coach at this point, I really believe we need to get our house in order from the top.
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We can’t trust him
 
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GVol1966 said:
Leach had been a winning HC for years, Pruitt never.
Leach in year 1 with 49 players on scholarship had the ball with minutes left and a chance to tie the game against UGA,
Pruitt in year 3 got blew out for the 3rd time.
So we might of been mid pack SEC with leach or better by now or bottom feeders with Pruitt.
They chose wrong.
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Leach won at Texas tech but at Washington St he was 8games above .500. He has same record has Pruitt this year so saying he would have us middle of road is a stretch unless 2-5 and a pirate day is ok with you.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Cutcliffe is a Johnny Majors coaching tree product. Fulmer just kept him on staff.
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This. Johnny finding a Bama alum coaching HS ball in Birmingham and bringing him back to Knoxville, is further proof that Majors was one of the greatest judges of coaching talent ever.
 
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Who is "we?" Unless you have magically been promoted to chancellor, there is no "we."
 
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hog88 said:
Truthfully he wasn't that great. With the talent he was able to recruit Fulmer should have had at least 1 more and maybe 2 more NCs. Other than getting extremely lucky 3 times in 1998 he always managed to piss away 1-2 games a year that kept us from the promised land.
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How could he only manage 2 SEC titles in 17 years with the talent he had is still a mystery to me.
 
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DaddyChad said:
I know some despise Fulmer on here but I personally love the man for what he has done as a coach for this program. That said he’s never been particularly good at hiring assistants. What would lead us to believe he would be good at hiring a head coach? He’s also in over his head it appears in negotiating a contract.

I really think fans just like the idea of a choice other than a puppet to Haslam. But why are we limited to that or Fulmer? As much as I would love to fire Pruitt and get another coach at this point, I really believe we need to get our house in order from the top.
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No
 
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Absolutely not. Sorry but Fulmer needs to go. He's become forever entrenched and seems to want to reach Paterno levels of main staying. Wouldn't be surprised if he wants a statue someday too. There's some egomania there and it's not healthy.
 
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DownNDirty said:
They may trot Fulmer out there to gladhand and smile for the camera and pat the next guy on the back but he will have nothing to do with the next coach if he's still around. He didn't even have anything to do with Rick Barnes contract. They don't even speak to one another. This next football go-round he will just be a figurehead if anything.
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what's the deal with Fulmer and Barnes not speaking?
 
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DaddyChad said:
I know some despise Fulmer on here but I personally love the man for what he has done as a coach for this program. That said he’s never been particularly good at hiring assistants. What would lead us to believe he would be good at hiring a head coach? He’s also in over his head it appears in negotiating a contract.

I really think fans just like the idea of a choice other than a puppet to Haslam. But why are we limited to that or Fulmer? As much as I would love to fire Pruitt and get another coach at this point, I really believe we need to get our house in order from the top.
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His hiring track record isn’t stellar.
 
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Look folks we are not just losing we are getting beat badly, we are not making progress and we have a coach that communicates like a rookie high school coach. I don’t see a real plan other than wing it and something will happen. This is not the guy to represent this storied football program and university.
 
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OrangeSoddyDaisy said:
Absolutely need to keep Phil. Were it not for him we'd have Schiano or, God forbid, Mike Leach as our coach.
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You forgot the blue fonts.
Leach is losing to UGA by 7 in year 1 and Pruitt is losing by 3-4 touchdowns every year.
You can’t be freakin serious saying you’d rather have Gump.
 
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Nationdom said:
what's the deal with Fulmer and Barnes not speaking?
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Let's just say - philosophical differences. I don't want to speak out of turn so that's all I'll say. But I promise you if we do ax poor Coach Gomer that Fulmer won't have anything at all to actually do with the next hire even if it "looks" like he's making it.
 
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If Fulmer wanted to hire Meyer or Freeze.....then yea.......Fulmer is like highly trustworthy, everyone knows that.

If he wanted to hire Scott Satterfield........then no he can’t be trusted.......and we haven't been able to for a long time now.
 
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chattavol420 said:
My god hell no. He needs to be 100 miles away from any discussion on the new coach. In fact...he needs to be fired prior to making a change. Imo you release fulmer right now. Go hire a guy like Blackburn. Allow him to immediately begin putting feelers out there and then release Pruitt as soon as the season is over. Here’s to hoping we have a new administrator and new coaching staff next year. But as a tn fan I should’ve learned by now but to have such lofty expectations. We’ll almost certainly keep fulmer and Pruitt a year or so too long. It’s obvious right now they’ve failed. Why not act now and get out in front of things?
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Blackburn, that’s the guy I’d rather have as AD. I truly believe he’d put the work in to turn the Football program around.
 
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DaddyChad said:
I know some despise Fulmer on here but I personally love the man for what he has done as a coach for this program. That said he’s never been particularly good at hiring assistants. What would lead us to believe he would be good at hiring a head coach? He’s also in over his head it appears in negotiating a contract.

I really think fans just like the idea of a choice other than a puppet to Haslam. But why are we limited to that or Fulmer? As much as I would love to fire Pruitt and get another coach at this point, I really believe we need to get our house in order from the top.
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I wouldn't trust Phil to pick someone to mow my yard....
 
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