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Supply lines concerning all things medical and ppe.....major problem when more than about 60% is coming from the other side of the world and a place you can not trust........
 
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newyorkvol said:
Interesting article by the Times. I didn’t actually read the study, though. They state a weakness was that Denmark had a low infection rate at the time, 2%. Interestingly, both groups were infected right at 2%.

Comments made are mostly by those in support of mask wearing. And those are appeals to authority and emotion. The one actual data based, factual comment is:

“But Dr. Christine Laine, editor in chief of the Annals of Internal Medicine, described the previous evidence that masks protect wearers as weak. “These studies cannot differentiate between source control and personal protection of the mask wearer,” she said.”
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GSD82 said:
Of course it is. These democrats enjoy telling people what to do and 80% of the people mindlessly go along with it. I have no doubt this is a test run to see what they can get away with. They now know they can use any reason to make people stay home or wear a cloth and most people will do it
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Classic Animal Farm.
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Vol Main said:
For masks to work, everyone has to wear them. Can't you understand that? I cannot say that you are absolutely spreading covid. But I can say that some of the people who do not wear masks are absolutley spreading it. They are far more likely to transmit the virus than folks who wear masks. That is not debatable. It is a known fact.
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Really? People who have antibodies are spreading covid? Stop the presses!!!
 
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volinbham said:
It's a red herring. Mask wearing is quite common in places that are seeing spikes. We had an earlier CDC study showing in some area of study (can't recall where) something like 85% of people contracting Covid were regular mask wearers.

I've got no problem wearing one but the mask shaming and blind faith in them gets old.
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I've had a few attempted shaming incidences. They didn't go well for the shamer.
 
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Vol Main said:
You might bear in mind that Dr. Fauci was loathe to urge the public to wear masks at a time of national shortage, when avaialble supplies were urgently needed by medical professionals working in hospital wards filled with covid patients. He made that reasoning clear in subsequent statements.

The letter appealing to the public to wear masks is from the American Hospital Association, the American Medical Association, and the American Nurses Association.
AHA, AMA, ANA Open Letter Urging Public to Wear a Mask to Stop COVID-19 Spread | AHA
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I disagree. The ANA can suck it. They aren't exactly in a fight for the nurses they " represent ".
 
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allvol123 said:
My company is doing gang busters because it is full of men and women that dont live in fear.
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Same here, we chose to stay running while many of our competitors decided to shutter or scale back services. We picked up business they gave away. One decided to capitalize on the COVID sanitizing service in lieu of their core business, it was a huge mistake.
 
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hog88 said:
Same here, we chose to stay running while many of our competitors decided to shutter or scale back services. We picked up business they gave away. One decided to capitalize on the COVID sanitizing service in lieu of their core business, it was a huge mistake.
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I wish I had a dollar for every time the phrase .. “if you arent moving forward you are losing ground “ was drilled in to my noggin .
 
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Vol Main said:
No, not if they are the type with portals.


You say that as if I were suggesting that all businesses like medical supplies be shut down. Where did I write that, besides nowhere? I find it strange that every reply to my posts is some tangential objection, instead of a continuation of conversation. It's as if you cannot read for the purpose of understanding and contributing. Not at all. You can only read for the purpose of reacting badly with some sideways comment, against what is written. I'm talking about my experience with posts here. Is there anybody here who can read for the purpose of understanding? Anybody?
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I am sorry you get upset when your short sited views get called out. Anyway...

you dont understand economics. The businesses in the medical supply line will depend on more than just the medical field for business. As this is how they operated before. You cant take away those other non essential businesses and not expect some fallout.

A for instance, the building industry is still considered essential at least in GA. We were getting some steel work done. It took three times as long and cost twice as much. Not because steel itself was shut down by the government. But because the people making the tools that work steel were shut down. So our suppliers couldnt get what they needed to make what we needed.

Now take that one instance on simple steel and apply it to the vastly more complex medical industry. Any one of those raw materials, third party suppliers, shipping, etc gets shut down. Either by the government directly or due to lack of other business they used to depend on, and you have issues.
 
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hog88 said:
Same here, we chose to stay running while many of our competitors decided to shutter or scale back services. We picked up business they gave away. One decided to capitalize on the COVID sanitizing service in lieu of their core business, it was a huge mistake.
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Same here with our bakery. We pushed big into some wholesale clients that another bakery here was declining to serve. Our retail fell off briefly but we had a blowout late summer.

November has collapsed because our landlord, whose neighboring restaurant is in the toilet, decided to essentially block up the entire front of our shop with a permanent dining tent. We've heard from lots of regulars that they were worried about disturbing an event (because of the tent) or that they were uncomfortable because of the drunks, smoking, and narrow path they now have to navigate.
 
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