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RockyTop85 said:
He twice accused me of deflecting after I took him up on his repeated requests to show that he had lied. If you think that “off topic” is a mischaracterization of what he said, or fundamentally changes his meaning the way that he did in all of my examples, and can explain it, I’ll admit I was wrong.

i have no problem admitting when I’m wrong. Happy to find examples, if you need them. Or you could try being right, sometime.
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see, you did it again. the "or you could try being right, sometime" implies I've never been right. Using your standards, that is a lie since I have been right sometimes.

another way to go is to disagree with someone without resorting to calling them liars and POS's because you think they are liars. just a thought.
 
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luthervol said:
I think once the first two or three break away, it will happen quickly. I'm also interested to see how it all plays out in GA with the recount going on and the two senate races being so important.
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Can't have it both ways once the key states start certifying their elections.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Let’s talk about the libs being called snowflakes and having safe spaces while Trumpers cry incessantly about Fox News not being nice to them so they all flee to NewsMax and OAN so their little feelings don’t get hurt.
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Let me know when they build safe spaces and start bringing their comfort animals with them to their protests.
 
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volinbham said:
you said Slice "Cries that proof of lies is off topic"

he did not say that - it is your interpretation of what he said stated as a fact.

Since you are suggesting that I am a Trumpkin then you are guilty of another lie (according to how you define lies).

Welcome to the club - might want to do a big cut and paste of your own comments to prove to yourself that you are lying.
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Impossible! He's a lawyer and lawyers do not lie!

Misstate the truth, make up stuff, obfuscate and misquote but never lie.
 
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volinbham said:
see, you did it again. the "or you could try being right, sometime" implies I've never been right. Using your standards, that is a lie since I have been right sometimes.

another way to go is to disagree with someone without resorting to calling them liars and POS's because you think they are liars. just a thought.
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So you’re not taking me up on the explanation? I don’t blame you.

Why would I have any interest in defending the position that there is zero evidence of even insignificant fraud, when that isn’t what I said? How is it even reasonable to understand what I said in that way? It’s not.

I offered a correction and that got misrepresented as well.

Why would I trouble myself over trying to have a civil, good faith discussion with someone who has demonstrated they’re not interested in either?

If you don’t want to be called a liar, don’t lie. I’m not sure how that’s controversial.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
So you’re ok with an attempt at fraud in our elections?
And you think there’s no proof and the states are recounting for the hell of it? In spite of the fact that Ga has said there was definitely fraud.

People like you are the problem.
To think I used to view you as reasonable but really you’re no different than any of the worst partisan Hacks on this board.
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GA said there was fraud? SoS and Lt Gov said otherwise.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
"We do have ongoing investigations," Raffensperger said when asked about allegations of voter fraud in Georgia. "Clearly we are going to find fraud but it doesn't rise to the level of 14,000." Raffensperger said
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Haven’t seen that quote. All I’ve seen is his repeated statement that there is no evidence of widespread fraud.

I’m guessing he was being pressed and was probably saying is they will turn up a handful of folks who tried to vote twice or illegally somehow. That is common in any election and crosses the aisle (so far the 3 public instances have been Trumpers). Usually that stuff turns up in the counting process anyway.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Haven’t seen that quote. All I’ve seen is his repeated statement that there is no evidence of widespread fraud.

I’m guessing he was being pressed and was probably saying is they will turn up a handful of folks who tried to vote twice or illegally somehow. That is common in any election and crosses the aisle (so far the 3 public instances have been Trumpers). Usually that stuff turns up in the counting process anyway.
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the recount in Florida in 2000 was good. It took time but made sure the election was accurate. And eventually lead to Florida having a better voting system.
The recounts and lawsuits now are good too. The truth will come out. Any fraud will be exposed and will ultimately protect the republic in the future. I do not expect anything to change. I expect Biden to be the winner.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
the recount in Florida in 2000 was good. It took time but made sure the election was accurate. And eventually lead to Florida having a better voting system.
The recounts and lawsuits now are good too. The truth will come out. Any fraud will be exposed and will ultimately protect the republic in the future. I do not expect anything to change. I expect Biden to be the winner.
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I’ve said I don’t have a problem with recounts.

I get annoyed with baseless claims of fraud, particularly widespread conspiracy fraud.

Unfortunately they could recount every state 10 times. Find less than .00000001% of fraud and many will still believe what they want.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
I’ve said I don’t have a problem with recounts.

I get annoyed with baseless claims of fraud, particularly widespread conspiracy fraud.

Unfortunately they could recount every state 10 times. Find less than .00000001% of fraud and many will still believe what they want.
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It’s as much about optics as it is the fraud.
The Florida system is nearly immune to the accusations of fraud. If it’s transparent then it’s hard for people to make things up.
But I do understand your frustration
 
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volinbham said:
You know that the Nazi party was the National Socialists German Worker's Party right? It was a National Socialist movement.

Or are you going to tell me that other notable experiments in socialism (eg. China, Russia, Venzuela) weren't fascist regimes?
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Yeah, America definitely went to war because of Germany's single-payer healthcare system and tax rates.

“It’s concerning to me that a guy can run for president of the United States and have an opportunity to win when he leans more to a socialist type of government, you know, one-payer system in health care, raise taxes 20 percent, when the other half the country is basically voting for freedom, let us control our own lives, stay out of our life,” said Tuberville, a former college football coach. “You know, as I tell people, my dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of socialism.”
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Delusional Trump Staffers Threw Victory Party: 'Enjoyed Drinks, Clinked Glasses to a Second Term,' Report Says
The report goes on to say that Trump feels “dejected” over his loss to President-elect Joe Biden, so his staff “feel obliged to continue their work and even celebrate Trump’s perceived victory.” Staff are acting as though a Trump second term is an actual thing, budget plans for federal agencies are ongoing, and staff were told “to stay put, even though nearly everyone knows the gig will end eventually.”
 
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