Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[BruinVol]

Does Jeff Monken have enough spread/pro style offensive experience to warrant a look?

I think he’s a hell of a football coach

@HankHill i know all the talk is on freeze but if a change is made and freeze doesn’t happen I am curious your thoughts about this.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Hear me out on something...I’ve been thinking about our last three coaches and how it is so similar that it’s scary, how they all three reach a point and it seems like they want out so bad and are willing to tank the program to get their buyout money and leave. The biggest head scratcher of all three is Pruitt coming off an eight game winning streak, and completely imploding. It just doesn’t make sense. Dooley… That made sense. He never had any success here. However, Butch did have some success, but he had an exit strategy coming off back to back 9-4 seasons. Why? I don’t understand why did he want out. We say because the job was too big for him. I’m starting to wonder if it wasn’t as much that, as all three see the writing on the wall. They think they can get everybody rowing in the same direction, they start making some headway, but then something happens, and they realize they cannot be as successful as they were promised, because they can’t get all of the support that they need. Pruitt got a lot more support, but based on what a V said, he’s not getting the full support he needs in order to pull this program out of the dumpster. So what is he going to do? Find a way out and leave like everyone else has. I think that is why @Atlanta VOL has said it won’t matter who we hire, if EVERYONE isn’t all in with full support. Something is scaring these coaches away when they seem like they are on the precipice of getting over the hump and starting to win big. I’m not sure exactly what it is, but it’s something. I think that is what AV is alluding to. I think this is where the power faction who is not in control is trying to sabotage the program so that their money is needed which gives them more power. Just some thoughts

Edit: Sorry I had to finish editing the rest of this as I accidentally hit the post button.

 

[Girth Brooks]

While we’re throwing out things we’d offer, I’ll furnish the burner phone, cocaine and hookers.

Guarantee I can get him some strange off Magnolia on retainer.

 

[BruinVol]

Haslams would hire an NFL guy IMO.

Joe Brady sounds good to me

 

[engineerVOL]

Freddie kitchens come on down.

No. More. Bammers.

 

[KPT_VFL]

I just don’t trust NFL coaches... they go from not having to recruit to having to do it. Then they always feel like they’re trying to get back to the NFL. Bill O’Brien. Kiffin is about the only one I can think stayed but he is basically a college kid himself with the way he acts.

 

[rjd970]

Id easily give a few thousand to get Freeze

To get Freeze I could probably be good for about $10K into the fund. And I’m not kidding, it would have to go directly to Freeze’s contract or Pruitt’s buyout.

 

[Specks]

Y'all are setting yourselves up for disappointment with all the Hugh dreaming. The stars will never align in the UT Administration for this to come to fruition.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I don't want to hear about any other coaches. It's Freeze or bust. Get on board.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

No. More. Bammers.

Just trying to get in the mind of the Haslams.

 

[rjd970]

Hear me out on something...I’ve been thinking about our last three coaches and how it is so similar that it’s scary, how they all three reach a point and it seems like they want out so bad and are willing to tank the program to get their buyout money and leave. The biggest head scratcher of all three is Pruitt coming off an eight game winning streak, and completely imploding. It just doesn’t make sense. Dooley… That made sense. He never had any success here. However, Butch did have some success, but he had an exit strategy coming off back to back 94 seasons.

Not only that, but it’s like he made the decision during halftime of the UGA game. It’s mind boggling.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Hear me out on something...I’ve been thinking about our last three coaches and how it is so similar that it’s scary, how they all three reach a point and it seems like they want out so bad and are willing to tank the program to get their buyout money and leave. The biggest head scratcher of all three is Pruitt coming off an eight game winning streak, and completely imploding. It just doesn’t make sense. Dooley… That made sense. He never had any success here. However, Butch did have some success, but he had an exit strategy coming off back to back 94 seasons.

It is interesting. They either suck or want out. There must be some serious issues behind the scenes.

 

[BruinVol]

I just don’t trust NFL coaches... they go from not having to recruit to having to do it. Then they always feel like they’re trying to get back to the NFL. Bill O’Brien. Kiffin is about the only one I can think stayed but he is basically a college kid himself with the way he acts.

Spurrier and Carrol were pretty good

 

[KPT_VFL]

Spurrier and Carrol were pretty good

Spurrier started in college. Same with Saban and Carrol ended up back in the league to prove my point?

 

[EdEcEko77]

This thread has gone full retard.

 

[BruinVol]

Spurrier started in college. Same with Saban and Carrol ended up back in the league to prove my point?

After winning a title
and bill O’Brien was a college coach before houston

Plenty of good coaches including the goat have nfl failures on their resumes.

 

[Catbone]

I don’t know who needs to read this but:

We’re not firing Pruitt or hiring Freeze.

If we convince Fulmer and the boosters and admin it's the WRONG thing to do, we might have a chance.

 

[Weezer]

Maybe we should hire Mrs. Mullen as our next HC? She knows how to motivate the players.

 

[KPT_VFL]

After winning a title
and bill O’Brien was a college coach before houston

Plenty of good coaches including the goat have nfl failures on their resumes.

Bill O’Brien was with the patriots before penn state.

 

[EdEcEko77]

Twitter: where “....” gets you likes

 

[Kingston Vol]

How much is Freeze being paid at Liberty? It’s a lot, right? I know they’ve got money.

 

[BruinVol]

Bill O’Brien was with the patriots before penn state.

You are missing the point

Coaches that have flipped flopped back in forth from the nfl to college have had great success in college after failing in the nfl.
saban is all the evidence you need

 

[butchna]

And if the one time transfer rule passes, how do we know kids will stay to play for him?

It’s not going to be an en masse thing. 25 man initial counter requirement most likely still stands and would serve as a Pandora’s Box balance.

 

[KPT_VFL]

I don’t think NFL head coaches like the grind of recruiting after not having to do it in the league.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

How much is Freeze being paid at Liberty? It’s a lot, right? I know they’ve got money.

2 mil.