whodeycin85
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I don't want my wife thinking about her next husband while we're still married, and I don't want to think about our next coach while we still have one. Fleck has done well, but Fleck was a head coach before. Pruitt is our coach. Just support our coach and our team. There are plenty of good coaches out there, and I want to believe we have one of them.
You’re right.What makes you think he’d even take it ? I know it’s hypothetical question, but last three hires have not been the intended target let alone the second or even third choice.
They didn’t beat anyone except Penn St. he doesn’t even having winning records against the dregs of the Big TenY'all realize this dude won 11 games at Minnesota, and 13 games at Western Michigan before that? Both within the last four years? We haven't won ten games since 2007
Fleck would be an awesome hire, I wanted him after we fired Butch
1. "They didn't beat anyone except for their best win" is a weird line to tow. They did beat Penn State, and they beat everybody nearly everybody else on their scheduleThey didn’t beat anyone except Penn St. he doesn’t even having winning records against the dregs of the Big Ten
I give them credit for beating Penn St but his record otherwise is mediocre at best. And we beat Auburn too. And 13-0 doesn’t mean anything when you play a bunch of G5 stiffs.1. "They didn't beat anyone except for their best win" is a weird line to tow. They did beat Penn State, and they beat everybody nearly everybody else on their schedule
2. They beat a 12th ranked Auburn team that was just coming off beating #5 Alabama
3. He won 13 games at Western Michigan. We haven't won 13 games in Trey Smith's lifetime
We did not beat Auburn, or even play them. That was 2018 when they ended up not finishing the year ranked. And he was using a G5 roster of players against other G5 rosters, so it means quite a lot, especially at a program that hasn't even been successful at that level usuallyI give them credit for beating Penn St but his record otherwise is mediocre at best. And we beat Auburn too. And 13-0 doesn’t mean anything when you play a bunch of G5 stiffs.
Gary Patterson is the only pretty consistent coach I could see doing well here. Outside of the unrealistic fantasy hires like a Saban or Gruden or Dabo type. Everyone else is either underwhelming or would be a hit or miss risk like we’ve been doingWe did not beat Auburn, or even play them. That was 2018 when they ended up not finishing the year ranked. And he was using a G5 roster of players against other G5 rosters, so it means quite a lot, especially at a program that hasn't even been successful at that level usually
Were Pruitt not to work out, who out there that's attainable that would be better?
Well we're in agreement there, I would love Patterson here. I wouldn't consider him attainable though. But if he were I'd be thrilled, I often think about where we'd be had we hired him over Kiffin. Curse Mike HamiltonGary Patterson is the only pretty consistent coach I could see doing well here. Outside of the unrealistic fantasy hires like a Saban or Gruden or Dabo type. Everyone else is either underwhelming or would be a hit or miss risk like we’ve been doing
Yeah Patterson would do very well here I think...Hell he's had TCU winning for years now and that's not an easy thing to do...Recruiting wise he would be a rock star here at UT...Plays a fun style of football.Gary Patterson is the only pretty consistent coach I could see doing well here. Outside of the unrealistic fantasy hires like a Saban or Gruden or Dabo type. Everyone else is either underwhelming or would be a hit or miss risk like we’ve been doing
Fleck has been more hyped that Butch ever was, but I'm not sure the guy is any better. He had good marks at a mid-major school, then had a good year in year 3 at his first P5 job. Very, very similar to Butch. The slogans and his overall shtick are eerily reminiscent.I think the guy's alot better than Botch, not saying we'd want him, but Minnesota has been crap for a long time and he's made them relevant. That's way more than Botch ever did.
The difference is he took over a G5 school that was bad and made them great. Butch took over two G5 schools that were great and made them good. And Flecks 3rd year at a P5 he went 11-2, Butch went 9-4Fleck has been more hyped that Butch ever was, but I'm not sure the guy is any better. He had good marks at a mid-major school, then had a good year in year 3 at his first P5 job. Very, very similar to Butch. The slogans and his overall shtick are eerily reminiscent.