I know. Another qb thread. But I have a question for VN.

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k-town_king said:
BS

He isn't faster than Cam Newton and Josh Allen.


That is because it isn't true.


Please link that and where and how it was timed.
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Just google it, put players name in and what was their timing in the 40 yard dash, very simple



Orange defense said:
If I was Smart, I would throw Danielson in against Kentucky. If I’m Pruitt, I would throw HB in against Arky. Oh well, what do you have to lose?
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Anyone but jg
 
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Orange defense said:
If I was Smart, I would throw Danielson in against Kentucky. If I’m Pruitt, I would throw HB in against Arky. Oh well, what do you have to lose?
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If you were Smart, you’d know that JT Daniels is medically cleared but still hasn’t been able to mentally get over his ACL injury and trust the knee enough to play on it.
 
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k-town_king said:
He has potential. Said it plenty of times.
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I haven't seen you do that but even if you have... you disagree every single time someone says something positive about him and twist the facts to go out of your way to say he's "no good"... plenty of times.

It was. He had to slow up. He was wide open so good one.
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This is a lie. If you watched the play and have any idea what you're looking at... you know it is false. Otherwise you are lying to yourself which is even worse.
 
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butchna said:
You have EVERY reason to lie! You’re not objective...this is your guy and the only reason you’re on this board. And I’m not even saying everything you put on here is a falsehood, just geared towards your boy. This thread isn’t a fact finding mission either. The Helpful OP Drop In’s are very disingenuous. No I don’t believe that drops of Maurer’s blood have shown use in treating Covid.
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Ktown shows up because jg played a game with no turnovers and thinks he had a great game. No where to be found after ky and ga. lol
 
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1vol8 said:
Let’s hypothetically speak that all of the qbs can be fully developed, because they CAN if Pruitt chose to. My question is this:

Assuming YOU had your choice of the 4, which one would it be if/when he was fully developed? Please explain why with your pick.

JG
BM
JTS
HB


Just curious.

EDIT: If rank is all you know please refer to HS highlights for HB, BM or JTS since we’ve gotten such a small sample of the 3. That was the last time they were fully developed within their respective systems.
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Bailey would be #1 for me because its clear the SEC is shifting to younger QB's sooner and having 2-3 year starters. Without having consistency at QB, its hard to turn a program around that cna keep up with the offensive output the SEC is doing these days.

I do believe if JG would have left or transferred and we had a full spring camp and preseason and non conference schedule, Bailey would have started day 1 and we would have started a 2-3 run with him at QB.

There is no high bar that JG has set for QB position in his 4-5 years of playing time. Bailey doesn't have to do much to be the best QB on the roster.

I still think Maurer has a future here.
 
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cgrish said:
Ktown shows up because jg played a game with no turnovers and thinks he had a great game. No where to be found after ky and ga. lol
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I’m not debating K-Town or his methodology or his fandom...I’m good with that.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
With Chaney on board, I am not so sure Pruitt is making the call. .
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I wouldn't argue with you about your other beliefs. I think they have merit.

I am very, very confident that Pruitt made the QB call and has been the one insisting on playing JG. No offensive play caller likes to be limited by his QB. JG greatly limits what Chaney can call.
 
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GAVol said:
If you were Smart, you’d know that JT Daniels is medically cleared but still hasn’t been able to mentally get over his ACL injury and trust the knee enough to play on it.
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No, I didn’t know that. You wouldn’t think that at all, because most Georgia fans is wanting Daniels this week to start.
 
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vegasvolfan said:
With Chaney on board, I am not so sure Pruitt is making the call. Regarless, Maurer was given a shot, early, as a Freshman and probably would have taken the job ultimately had he not suffered three concussions.

Enter this year. We have no spring camp and Bailey gets sick during the summer. Considering he is a Freshman, he is out for at least half a year of development due to those two factors. Makes sense he isn’t ready at this point. If it were someone who already knew the offense, that would be a different story.

So, HB is understandably out. What about Maurer? He’s injured. Understandably out. So, now you are back to JG or Strout. Well, he got a shot right after JG threw two interceptions. What does he do? He throws an interception on his first play. We are back to JG.

JG played OK. You will see him again. This was a free year for Bailey anyways. He will still have a redshirt if he wants it. Maurer could very well end up being our next guy.

Regardless, might as well keep Bailey safe and develop him over time. This year is simply a wash for me and I have to wonder if that is what many of our players are thinking at this juncture. I still think we need a thriving, proven S&C coach. If I am Pruitt, that is what I am working hard to line up at the end of the year along with a tremendous DL coach. He is not going anywhere.

There are a lot of things going on right now that are not Pruitt’s fault. Like this QB stuff. I was frustrated with Pruitt, but after thinking about it, not much he could do here.

Some things are his fault though.

His comments about closing the gap against Bama were awfully inaccurate. It is like he has forgotten just last year we had the momentum in the 4th and were 1 yard shy from being within one score of them before the bonehead he has to play made the mistake he made to put Bama up 21. I mean HUH???

Second, his promotion of Art Giles was his worst hiring decision he has made. I understand that he had to bring in guys that had never coached where they were hired to coach initially, but this is year three. Maybe Fitz left at the wrong time and Pruitt couldn’t find anybody, but it was still his worst hire. We need to stop being a proving ground for coaches. We are NOT Bama.

Third, firing Brum 4 games in was ridiculous. Our HC is now a DL coach who apparently will not let Ansley call plays. This means he has zero time to have any real pulse on the offense. So, it should not be his call as to who plays at QB, and as I said earlier I doubt it is.

Regardless of whose decision it is, they have been stuck with JG up until maybe this point. They put in Freshman early last year, and the best one got hurt. They don’t want to let that happen again in a throw away year. I mean, they could, but they probably don’t want to. I respect that.
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You are wrong on so several points here.
1-Bailey sick ? I know he was out because of Covid tracing. Not sure if he was sick.
2-Maurer injured - he had an issue during camp. He has been healthy for a while.
3-S/C issues referenced by you and several others. I call BS.
The problems for this team are almost 100% execution related.
4-Pruitt - nothing he can do about the issues on this team including the Qb position. A valid excuse for year one but not years 2-3. He is still losing opportunities to develop the BM and HB. Alabama 4th Qtr was the perfect opportunity to give both HB and HB quality snaps including passing plays. Alabama gave Young more development than we our backup Qb’s.
 
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I sure hope HB gets lots of attention this week and next week in order to get him ready to start against Arkansas.
 
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Schasz said:
I sure hope HB gets lots of attention this week and next week in order to get him ready to start against Arkansas.
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Wouldn’t bet on it. He’s not a genetic duplicate of Aaron Rodgers and definitely doesn’t clock a 4.5 40!
 
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Orange defense said:
No, I didn’t know that. You wouldn’t think that at all, because most Georgia fans is wanting Daniels this week to start.
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...and he might be ready. He’s been medically cleared for a month but hasn’t really gotten the confidence back yet.
 
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butchna said:
Going backwards or running in place. Opposing players seem to catch up with him pretty fast. Once Dobbs got past the LOS, no one caught him.
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While agree with you about Dobbs being fast, I want to be clear, I meant Dobbs did not look fast. He has deceptive speed. Maurer looks quick when he takes off. I feel we lack a real sample size to make a fair judgment. Maurer is also a Sophmore in an SEC strength and conditioning program. He will most likely continue to get bigger, faster, and stronger. By his Sr year,he may be faster than Dobbs if not already.
 
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Lane Train 4 said:
While agree with you about Dobbs being fast, I want to be clear, I meant Dobbs did not look fast. He has deceptive speed. Maurer looks quick when he takes off. I feel we lack a real sample size to make a fair judgment. Maurer is also a Sophmore in an SEC strength and conditioning program. He will most likely continue to get bigger, faster, and stronger. By his Sr year,he may be faster than Dobbs if not already.
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Terrell Owens clocked a 4.7 at the NFL Combine and that shocked me at the time. He was obviously faster than that in college and in his NFL careers. Running in shorts and away from linebackers are two different dynamics. Fact is, I don’t think anybody GETS FASTER. They just train better for the test. Similar to standardized tests. Dobbs from his Vols debut on played faster on the field than the bits we’ve glimpses from Maurer. Now can he train to dominate better in the Shorts Olympics? Prolly. You think he looks quick. I think everybody looks quicker than JG. Our eye tests aren’t science but they’re all we can comment on.
 
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butchna said:
You have EVERY reason to lie! You’re not objective...this is your guy and the only reason you’re on this board. And I’m not even saying everything you put on here is a falsehood, just geared towards your boy. This thread isn’t a fact finding mission either. The Helpful OP Drop In’s are very disingenuous. No I don’t believe that drops of Maurer’s blood have shown use in treating Covid.
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You’re absolutely ridiculous sometimes. It’s as simple as this. UT will not keep both BM and HB and that was the purpose of the thread. To see if it would indeed come down to those 2 (which I expected). I stopped keeping track last night but it seems pretty even given the conversations and nothing was swayed by anything I personally said throughout the conversations regardless of how you feel. Stay tuned for round 2 because there will be a follow up thread that I hope you can be less biased in.

In 2018 I was keeping a close eye on UT. I watched JG get blasted on nearly every play because of a shotty o line, a lack of pocket awareness and an inability to escape. You think I’m here for “my boy” when I gave “my boy” to UT!? I gave him to you because I wanted to HELP! And you think ”I” contribute nothing? It can be argued that I’ve personally tried to contribute to the solution of UTs problems dude! But I’m a fraud because I took to the team and fan base in the process? I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again..... you are the worst kind of fan. You think your seniority entitles you. One of two things is going to happen. 1) you’ll thank me one day for my effort or 2) you’ll wish Pruitt gave him a chance when he was here.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
You are wrong on so several points here.
1-Bailey sick ? I know he was out because of Covid tracing. Not sure if he was sick.
2-Maurer injured - he had an issue during camp. He has been healthy for a while.
3-S/C issues referenced by you and several others. I call BS.
The problems for this team are almost 100% execution related.
4-Pruitt - nothing he can do about the issues on this team including the Qb position. A valid excuse for year one but not years 2-3. He is still losing opportunities to develop the BM and HB. Alabama 4th Qtr was the perfect opportunity to give both HB and HB quality snaps including passing plays. Alabama gave Young more development than we our backup Qb’s.
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EXACTLY! And thanks!! Leaving JG in to the end of the UGA game was unconscionable IMO. It was a complete butthead move by him not to bring in Maurer or HB had he done so until the 4thj quarter with 4 minutes and change on the clock. Just a very very bad communication to his 4 QBs on the roster. If I'm any of the four after that move, I hit the transfer portal end of season. <smh>
 
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1vol8 said:
You’re absolutely ridiculous sometimes. It’s as simple as this. UT will not keep both BM and HB and that was the purpose of the thread. To see if it would indeed come down to those 2 (which I expected). I stopped keeping track last night but it seems pretty even given the conversations and nothing was swayed by anything I personally said throughout the conversations regardless of how you feel. Stay tuned for round 2 because there will be a follow up thread that I hope you can be less biased in.

In 2018 I was keeping a close eye on UT. I watched JG get blasted on nearly every play because of a shotty o line, a lack of pocket awareness and an inability to escape. You think I’m here for “my boy” when I gave “my boy” to UT!? I gave him to you because I wanted to HELP! And you think ”I” contribute nothing? It can be argued that I’ve personally tried to contribute to the solution of UTs problems dude! But I’m a fraud because I took to the team and fan base in the process? I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again..... you are the worst kind of fan. You think your seniority entitles you. One of two things is going to happen. 1) you’ll thank me one day for my effort or 2) you’ll wish Pruitt gave him a chance when he was here.
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You “gave him to us”? We’ve been burying the lead all along! So you started your NON-BIASED TOTALLY OBJECTIVE thread with the express purpose of objectively deciding between Harrison Bailey and all his helpfully picked out defects pointed out by you and someone you personally GAVE TO US? I think when a self described fan who only advocates one player starts grading another with a lifetime stake in the program...you go with the actual fan. If Maurer is the best QB on the roster, I hope he runs away with the job. But it’s not either/or because you say so. You’re the worst kind of VISITOR...someone who promotes himself as a fan but isn’t. I don’t make decisions and neither do you. So there’s going to be no regret on my part. Time to acknowledge you’re simply a yapping voice in the peanut gallery.
 
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