Defensive Leaders Should Step Up for a QB Change

[BigOrangeCrush32]

Clausen was 34-10 as a starting quarterback, and he was 14-1 in road games. What is Jarret's win /loss. I really do not know.

You really don't know, bc it is scary to look and you don't want to be sad the rest of the day.

Casey wasn't called the "Iceman" for going cold in games, it was bc he had Ice in his Veins against top teams in away games.

 

[Zues1]

You really don't know, bc it is scary to look and you don't want to be sad the rest of the day.

Casey wasn't called the "Iceman" for going cold in games, it was bc he had Ice in his Veins against top teams in away games.

I tied to look JG up but didn't see a win loss stat. Guess my google skills are incomplete

 

[igotworms]

So they should demand the players that they know are worse than JG should play just in the name of making a change?

I guess we should have benched Casey Clausen when he had 4 fumbles in one half.

Makes perfect sense.

How many games did he have 4 fumbles?
I know you're his freaking dad but damn

Of course you bench Clausen if in his 4th year he's still has 4 turnovers a game

 

[USAFgolferVol]

How many games did he have 4 fumbles?
I know you're his freaking dad but damn

Of course you bench Clausen if in his 4th year he's still has 4 turnovers a game

It was the Florida game and pouring down rain and he kept fumbling the snap from a center who was playing out of position on that day. That was as much on Fulmer for not calling a timeout as it was on Clausen.

King bringing Clausen up was one of the dumber posts of all time in this forum

 

[DaUndergroundMan]

The reason is bad team management.
By Pruitt.

Maurer took JGs job last year.
A TRUE FRESHMAN
Not because Maurer was so awesome in practice or the game, but because JG played so awful they had to make a change.
Then he got injured...

And here we are again! Just like i said we would be.
Because your guy can't consistently produce at QB so we need to work other "unprepared " options

You can't keep pushing your same trifling and tired narrative that JG is the best option when your boy is piling up losses..

Yeah, why did K-town even disappear? I figured he'd be furiously working on a new angle to channel his tired agenda into something less.... trollish, and more substantial.

Granted, the big JG emblazoned across the breast of his underoos puts him at an extreme disadvantage. Baghdad Bob might even say, "I had it easy with Saddam. This Guarantano guy....yikes."

At any rate K-town, strange ninja he is.... smoke jumped, to return to the exact same spot Again and Again. Sound and fury, signyfying nothing. It's a goofy exercise. Sensible Samurai are like, "What?"

"Oh, that's just K-town, don't mind him, he can do this all day long, just don't let him measure your facial symmetry."

 

[BigOrangeCrush32]

I tied to look JG up but didn't see a win loss stat. Guess my google skills are incomplete

I see what you did there

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

If he trots JG out there and refuses to bench him if he commits a turnover, then I hope we get blown out badly. If he wants to be stubborn, let him die on the JG sword.

I believe your hopes will be realized.

 

[SpookyAction]

The backups cannot play worse than JG. They can give us more of the same but you have to try something. Backups have not been getting reps because JG takes them all. And he wasted those reps. It's time to move on and work on one of the other guys. You cannot justify starting JG.

Stats don't always tell the story of a game, but JT Shrout has a QB rating of -200.00.

 

[sjt18]

I believe your hopes will be realized.

At this point, I think it would be cruel to run JG out there to a shower of boos. The kid doesn't deserve that from his coach.

 

[whodeycin85]

Obviously k-town and Pruitt share the same logic...
If no one else get practice reps...the JG isn
the best QB in practice

 

[Roustabout]

They are even worse on offense converting 3rd downs....26.4 %

3rd down is a major problem for this team on both side of the ball.

Speaks to scheme and playcalling IMO.

Instead, we are getting a d line coach firing and a half-witted defense of JG in blaming other players for his mistakes.

And we keep getting told how the “experts” know more than us. I’m not the one still paying of Butch Jones. How these people climb the ladder I’ll never know.

 

[Roustabout]

At this point, I think it would be cruel to run JG out there to a shower of boos. The kid doesn't deserve that from his coach.

The booing of a few thousand fans shouldn’t be too hard to deal with.

 

[Other_Guy]

So Shrout with "1" pick is bad, but JG with 3 in last 4 quarters, 2 Pick 6's, isn't?

Shrout playing tight bc he isn't allowed to make a mistake and JG is loose bc it doesn't matter how many he makes. There is a huge difference in mentality with that.

I pushed for Shrout to get a shot, but this is absurd. Shrout had an easy dump off that it even appeared he thought of making, then he forced a terrible deeper ball that was picked. He had a shot and he blew it by throwing a pic on his 1st plass. I would have yanked him too.

 

[LAVol1]

We have started qbs with worse numbers that have played worse games than that.

You don't play backup qbs that have proven they are worse for a bad game and a half. 99% of teams would not.

I've defended JG as much as most anyone from an objective standpoint. But, in my well over 50 years of watching UT football, I don't know that I've even seen a worse performance against a less-than-stellar team. This season for all practical purposes is done. Time to gear up for the future, whether that be Bailey, Shrout, or Maurer. The foundation is rotten. Tear it down and rebuild it now.

 

[LargeOrange1]

Defensive leaders need to worry about tightening up their 2nd half performance.

If my offense puts me right back on the field with 3 & out or a turnover im not going to have much incentive to bust my @$$ as a defensive player

 

[sechamp2012]

You really hate White QB's don't ya? Clausen had already established himself as a very good QB, something JG has yet or will ever do.

We honestly don't know if the backups are that bad bc they never get a full chance to succeed. I'm all for letting Shrout play a whole game without fear of being pulled for a mistake and see how he performs. You know, the same that JG gets.

I really not on Shrout band wagon but they put him in bad situation and have a penalty putting them in 3rd and 18 and the writing was on the wall. If JG would have been in they would have ran the ball and punted, that's frustrating. Letting a guy throw his first pass in a year in a game in a no win situation while playing your 5th year senior like a true freshman in 2nd half. they reverted back to the Miss state game plan in 2nd half but the game was long gone. SAD...

 

[hog88]

If my offense puts me right back on the field with 3 & out or a turnover im not going to have much incentive to bust my @$$ as a defensive player

A player that needs incentive to bust their azz every play usually doesn't see the field.

 

[k-town_king]

Sorry he is the best option. Hasn't changed.

If Bailey is ready give him a shot.

The other two are worse.

Sorry that may be a hard pill to swallow.

 

[LargeOrange1]

A player that needs incentive to bust their azz every play usually doesn't see the field.

You mean incentive as in having a ******** chance to win a game by the offense scoring points? Geezle.

 

[photovol]

I can almost guarantee you that if Al Wilson was on this team, with the Defense playing as well as they are and being put in terrible field position to defend time after time, he would be all over JG's rear end and in the coaches ear to get him outta there. We all know the story about him and Manning at Memphis. If I was Henry T, I would be doing the same right now. There is still a legitimate chance to win the East, not great but a chance. The defense is playing great but no matter how great a Defense is, constantly being on the field, due to 3 and outs, or put in short field situations, JG turnovers, they will eventually crack. We saw that against Ga in the second half after a Monster first half from our Defense. Then against UK, they just seemed deflated after JG kept trotting out there and doing absolutely nothing.

The Defensive Leaders need to be very vocal right now. What matters is the TEAM, not just JG. By taking a stance against JG to give another a legitimate shot, not just a series or pull after 1 mistake, they are saying we are doing our job and now the Offense needs to do their part to help us out.

In my personal opinion, it looks like Coach Pruitt may be close to losing the locker room over his stubbornness with JG. Those who have ever played a Team sport knows this feeling. When the coach pulls one or more kids for making mistakes but leaves another in after multiple and never pulling him.

Some of y'all will disagree with me and I totally understand that. This is just my opinion on what I would be doing if I was a Defensive Leaders on the team and saw my season slipping away.

You can tell the ones that smoke the good stuff

 

[sjt18]

Sorry he is the best option. Hasn't changed.

Nope. Simple. He is the option that leads to 3 or 4 wins. If that's your best "current option" then you move on to playing for the future. You make him the scout team QB and allow the next best two (probably Maurer and HB) to compete for the job. Let them play through their mistakes and inexperience.

This way you may sacrifice some in the short run but at least have hope for a credible QB in '21.

If Bailey is ready give him a shot.

The other two are worse.

Sorry that may be a hard pill to swallow.

You have no idea what you are talking about... and think football is played on a stat sheet. If you can watch Maurer play and NOT see talent... you really should find something else to do with your time. Talent doesn't always turn into performance (see JG) but writing Maurer off at this point as you've done is stupid.

FWIW, by your rule Bailey is by far the worst of the three. Only stats matter... not context. He's completing 25% of his passes for a 6 yd/att average and a 75 qbr. Remember, it is YOUR ignorant rule... only stats matter.

 

[k-town_king]

Nope. Simple. He is the option that leads to 3 or 4 wins. If that's your best "current option" then you move on to playing for the future. You make him the scout team QB and allow the next best two (probably Maurer and HB) to compete for the job. Let them play through their mistakes and inexperience.

This way you may sacrifice some in the short run but at least have hope for a credible QB in '21.


You have no idea what you are talking about... and think football is played on a stat sheet. If you can watch Maurer play and NOT see talent... you really should find something else to do with your time. Talent doesn't always turn into performance (see JG) but writing Maurer off at this point as you've done is stupid.

FWIW, by your rule Bailey is by far the worst of the three. Only stats matter... not context. He's completing 25% of his passes for a 6 yd/att average and a 75% qbr. Remember, it is YOUR ignorant rule... only stats matter.

Already won 8 last year so wtf are you talking about?

Maurer was bad beyond one quarter. You, and many here, desperately want to replace JG so you want to throw any warm body out no matter if we never win a game again.

Sad

When Bailey starts a few games and plays in several and he is still below 47% then I would say he is bad. Not a big enough sample size and he was ranked high for a reason. A higher ranked player gets more of the benefit of the doubt.

 

[hog88]

You mean incentive as in having a ******** chance to win a game by the offense scoring points? Geezle.

For SEC players the incentive is the NFL and quitting because the other side of the ball isn't holding up their end isn't going to impress anyone in the league.

 

[sjt18]

Already won 8 last year so wtf are you talking about?

This year genius. They can't go back and play Maurer or HB more... last year.

What team left on the schedule is worse than UK besides Vandy? Arkansas... maybe. Big maybe.

Maurer was bad beyond one quarter. You, and many here, desperately want to replace JG so you want to throw any warm body out no matter if we never win a game again.

You are fundamentally dishonest and ignorant about the game. You lack any ability whatsoever to watch a guy play and recognize talent.

When Bailey starts a few games and plays in several and he is still below 47% then I would say he is bad. Not a big enough sample size and he was ranked high for a reason. A higher ranked player gets more of the benefit of the doubt.

And you are still dishonest and have NOTHING except stats out of context. Go back and check again to see who did more in games where both JG and BM played competitive downs.... you won't because it would destroy the LIE you tell yourself.

What's with your hatred of Maurer anyway? What did he do to you other than threaten your idol?

LOL... are you serious? You think a "ranking" means more than actual talent on a level playing field? I hope HB is terrific. I really don't care which of the three takes over.... just want it to be the one that DESERVES IT.... and someone MUCH better than your idol.

 

[calban]

I can almost guarantee you that if Al Wilson was on this team, with the Defense playing as well as they are and being put in terrible field position to defend time after time, he would be all over JG's rear end and in the coaches ear to get him outta there. We all know the story about him and Manning at Memphis. If I was Henry T, I would be doing the same right now. There is still a legitimate chance to win the East, not great but a chance. The defense is playing great but no matter how great a Defense is, constantly being on the field, due to 3 and outs, or put in short field situations, JG turnovers, they will eventually crack. We saw that against Ga in the second half after a Monster first half from our Defense. Then against UK, they just seemed deflated after JG kept trotting out there and doing absolutely nothing.

The Defensive Leaders need to be very vocal right now. What matters is the TEAM, not just JG. By taking a stance against JG to give another a legitimate shot, not just a series or pull after 1 mistake, they are saying we are doing our job and now the Offense needs to do their part to help us out.

In my personal opinion, it looks like Coach Pruitt may be close to losing the locker room over his stubbornness with JG. Those who have ever played a Team sport knows this feeling. When the coach pulls one or more kids for making mistakes but leaves another in after multiple and never pulling him.

Some of y'all will disagree with me and I totally understand that. This is just my opinion on what I would be doing if I was a Defensive Leaders on the team and saw my season slipping away.

Lost me at "win the East". That's like Play offs!!!? Play offs!!?