The Hunter Biden Thread

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Grand Vol said:
It's amazing how quick the Twitter Brigade started in on him afterwards.

"This is a Russian hoax!"

Not really explaining how the Russians got Hunter Biden to drop off a laptop at a computer repair shop a year before these things were made public. I mean, dang, that's a good long con right there. Got the FBI to sit on it nearly 10 months?
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The russians are playing 6D chess
 
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Remember when the right used to support a private businesses right to make its own decisions?

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Septic said:
Was a law broken? Are people legally entitled to post whenever and whatever they want?

Apparently the right has decided that a private business decision is in fact subject to congressional oversight.

I thought the right was migrating over to Parler? If people don't like Jack Dorseys policy's, leave. Seems simple enough.
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Jack caved admitted they were wrong...he allowed the story
 
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ajvol01 said:
You think this is a winning argument.
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He's a lawyer, she's a fashionista and you are questioning his acumen to serve on a private companys bod - but not a purse "designer" qualifications to advise the POTUS or meet with foreign leaders?

If pointing out the hypocrisy was my goal (hint: it was) then yep, it's a winning argument.
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
Except one is on in the US gov and the other works for peking duck, crack, and russian hookers...other than that it's exactly the same.
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I just heard you say that you are cool with American tax dollars being squandered to a employ a wholly unqualified senior WH advisor and that it is somehow less offensive for the tax payer than a dude who is getting paid by a private overseas entity. I assume it's because 'he aInT QuAlifi3d!'

That about right?
 
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Septic said:
The same way Ivanka's purse and shoe fashion design acumen qualifies her to be on the Government dole as a senior White House advisor.
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She would be "on the dole", if she were accepting a salary as WH advisor. You don't like uppity broads, or can't afford her shoes and bags? I think it's refreshing for somebody in government to be able to say "I work for a living, and it didn't come from your taxes." As far as the conflict of interest angle, the Trump name was in circulation and fortune made long before any of them showed up in the WH. That's a real change from the politicians and families using the connection to make fortunes and wind up on boards of directors - likely in companies they pumped and pimped along the way.
 
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AM64 said:
She would be "on the dole", if she were accepting a salary as WH advisor. You don't like uppity broads, or can't afford her shoes and bags? I think it's refreshing for somebody in government to be able to say "I work for a living, and it didn't come from your taxes." As far as the conflict of interest angle, the Trump name was in circulation and fortune made long before any of them showed up in the WH. That's a real change from the politicians and families using the connection to make fortunes and wind up on boards of directors - likely in companies they pumped and pimped along the way.
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LOL, yes Ivanka is a blue collar slave to the machine. Grinding, scrimping and saving - punchin' the clock just in time to get home, make supper and do the laundry.

She's one of us.
 
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Septic said:
I just heard you say that you are cool with American tax dollars being squandered to a employ a wholly unqualified senior WH advisor and that it is somehow less offensive for the tax payer than a dude who is getting paid by a private overseas entity. I assume it's because 'he aInT QuAlifi3d!'

That about right?
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No doubt it's right that's what you heard lol. That's the triple lundy of spins and whataboutism from the supposed whataboutism popo. Good one chief.

 
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StarRaider said:
The russians are playing 6D chess
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It's funny having just finished The Ugly American, reading this passage near the end of the book. Since the book was published in 1958, the thought of nuclear war has changed, but at least some of the other part of the game is still in play - probably by China too. History shows that the authors miscalculated a bit on the magnitude of "violent battle"; but likely since the end of colonialism, no country has ever put a less qualified "diplomatic" corps into the field than the US nor learned less about foreign affairs than the US. But we certainly have perfected the art of buying positions such as Ambassador without the tiniest bit of talent or expertise.

I do not think that the Russians will ever resort to thermonuclear warfare. They won't have to. They are winning much too easily to run the risk of annihilation by retaliation. Since the end of World War II they have not suffered a major defeat. As you have said often in your public speeches, we will never be the first to launch the bomb. What this means is that the Russians will win the world by their successes in a multitude of tiny battles. Many of these will be fought around conference tables, in the rice fields of Asia, at village meetings, in schools; but mainly they will take place in the minds of men. Only occasionally will the battles be violent; but the sum of these tiny battles will decide whether our way of life is to perish or to persist.
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Septic said:
He's a lawyer, she's a fashionista and you are questioning his acumen to serve on a private companys bod - but not a purse "designer" qualifications to advise the POTUS or meet with foreign leaders?

If pointing out the hypocrisy was my goal (hint: it was) then yep, it's a winning argument.
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Would you say the Ivanka Trump in her act as entrepreneur is more or less fit for the position than Caroline Kennedy is as a member of the Boeing board of directors? Or do you think both should be in the kitchen? All things considered, I know I'd feel more comfortable with someone perhaps screwing up a fashion startup than sitting on the board of a company screwing up an aircraft - especially one carrying over a hundred people at a time. If you just want to belittle the fashion industry as a whole, I'm all in ... just don't forget to include some others like cellphone manufacturers who use the same obsolescence principle as fashion designers.
 
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Septic said:
LOL, yes Ivanka is a blue collar slave to the machine. Grinding, scrimping and saving - punchin' the clock just in time to get home, make supper and do the laundry.

She's one of us.
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Hunter, too. I don't know how the boy manages all the drugs and women while spending all that time slaving over a pipeline (oil this time) - must have super genes, intelligence (not necessarily the mental kind), and connections inherited from his dad. Salt of the earth - just like us.
 
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AM64 said:
Hunter, too. I don't know how the boy manages all the drugs and women while spending all that time slaving over a pipeline (oil this time) - must have super genes, intelligence (not necessarily the mental kind), and connections inherited from his dad. Salt of the earth - just like us.
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Even with a keen knowledge of Trumps propensity to appeal to the lowest common denominator and with that - super low expectations, it's still sadly fascinating for me to witness folks using another persons struggles with drug addiction as a punchline.
 
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Septic said:
Even with a keen knowledge of Trumps propensity to appeal to the lowest common denominator and with that - super low expectations, it's still fascinating for me to witness folks using another persons drug addiction as a punchline.
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The retort lacks punch if you whiff on that part. Otherwise, Hunter might be busy today screwing up the Navy - more than the Navy manages on its own. Please, tell us though that you haven't gone full left rudder and the "Hunter is a victim" route.
 
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Septic said:
Every email has this metadata and every email is real. The metadata contained and hidden away reveals, where it came from, where it's going and how and when it got there.

Techcrunch has a good article on the inconsistencies of the data and about how repair shops work,

.....In addition, the laptops were full of private emails and images, as well as personal videos that are incriminating of the younger Biden whose drug habit at the time has become public record.

The data was recovered, but somehow the client could not be contacted. The repair shop then apparently inspected the data, found it relevant to the national interest, and made a copy to give to Trump ally Rudy Giuliani before handing it over to the FBI. Giuliani, through former Trump strategist Steve Bannon, shared the data with the New York Post, which published the articles today.

There are so many problems with this story it is difficult to know where to begin.

  1. The very idea that a laptop with a video of Hunter Biden smoking crack on it would be given to a random repair shop to recover is absurd. It is years since his drug use and Burisma dealings became a serious issue of international importance, and professionals would long since have taken custody of any relevant hardware or storage. It is beyond the worst operational security in the world to give an unencrypted device with confidential data on it to a third party. It is, however, very much a valid way for someone to make a device appear to be from a person or organization without providing any verification that it is so.

  1. The repair shop supposedly could not identify Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, as the customer. But the invoice (for $85 — remarkably cheap for diagnosis, recovery, and backup of three damaged Macs) has “Hunter Biden” written right on it, with a phone number and one of the email addresses he reportedly used. It seems unlikely that Hunter Biden’s personal laptop — again, loaded with personal and confidential information, and possibly communications with the VP — would be given to a small repair shop (rather than an Apple Store or vetted dealer) and that shop would be given his personal details for contact. Political operators with large supporting organizations simply don’t do that — though someone else could have.

  1. Even if they did, the idea that Biden or his assistant or whoever would not return to pick up the laptop or pay for the services is extremely suspicious. Again, these are supposedly the personal devices of someone who communicated regularly with the VP, and whose work had come under intense scrutiny long before they were dropped off. They would not be treated lightly or forgotten. On the other hand, someone who wanted this data to be inspected would do exactly this.

  1. That the laptops themselves were open and unencrypted is ridiculous. The serial number of the laptop suggests it was a 2017 MacBook Pro, probably running Mojave. Every Mac running Lion or later has easily enabled built-in encryption. It would be unusual for anyone to provide a laptop for repair that had no password or protection whatsoever on its files, let alone a person like Hunter Biden — again, years into efforts to uncover personal data relating to his work in Ukraine. An actor who wanted this data to be discovered and read would leave it unencrypted.

  1. That this information would be inspected by the repair shop at all is very suspect indeed. Recovery of an ostensibly damaged Mac would likely take the form of cloning the drive and checking its integrity against the original. There is no reason the files or apps themselves would need to be looked at in the course of the work in the first place. Some shops have software that checks file hashes, if they can see them, against a database of known child sex abuse material. And there have been notable breaches of trust where repair staff illicitly accessed the contents of a laptop to get personal data. But there’s really no legitimate reason for this business to inspect the contents of the devices they are working on, let alone share that information with anyone, let alone a partisan operative. The owner, and avid Trump supporter, gave an interview this morning giving inconsistent information on what had happened and suggested he investigated the laptops of his own volition and retained copies for personal protection.

  1. The data itself is not convincing. The Post has published screenshots of emails instead of the full text with metadata — something you would want to do if you wanted to show they were authentic. For stories with potential political implications, it’s wise to verify.

  1. Lastly, the fact that a copy was given to Giuliani and Bannon before being handed over to the FBI, and that it is all being published two weeks before the election, lends the whole thing a familiar stink — one you may remember from other pre-election shenanigans in 2016. The choice of the Post as the outlet for distribution is curious, as well; one need only to accidentally step on one in the subway to understand why.
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100% agree. I also think none of this would matter to Dems or MSM if the situation were reversed. This would be the top headline everywhere and they’d already have Trump convicted in the court of pubic opinion.
 
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Septic said:
Was a law broken? Are people legally entitled to post whenever and whatever they want?

Apparently the right has decided that a private business decision is in fact subject to congressional oversight.

I thought the right was migrating over to Parler? If people don't like Jack Dorseys policy's, leave. Seems simple enough.
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Concur. Then they get no protection as just a forum, which is what they’ve claimed in the past. They can be a conduit for discussion and nothing more or choose to control the content and lose the protection.
 
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Electric Orange said:
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Maybe I’m missing something here but where does it say anything about the laptop being Hunter Biden’s? Just having an attorney for Hunter contact the shop doesn’t mean the laptop was his as any attorney would be investigating the source of the story in this case. Maybe I’m missing part of the email.
 
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