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#27
#27
utchs81 said:
Not 100% sure but I suspect issues with snapper and holder may be the culprit. I fully expect that it will be cleared up in the near future.
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Agreed. I thought I "heard" there is a walk on starting at long snapper now. They just need some more reps, they'll get it together.
 
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tnutater said:
When was the last time tOSU, Clemson, Bama, or Ga lost due to a field goal?
You have to score TDs to beat good teams.
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Heh.

I mean, I agree with you. TDs are certainly better than FGs.

But your question immediately made me think of the Bama-LSU game that ended 9-6 a few years back. Remember that one? Good defensive game.

I'm hoping our game this weekend against UGa goes kinda down that same road. Defensive. Low-scoring. Team with the fewest mistakes wins.

Because our lads are showing great discipline and control so far this year. I think that's our key advantage over the Dawgs.

Go Vols!
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Heh.

I mean, I agree with you. TDs are certainly better than FGs.

But your question immediately made me think of the Bama-LSU game that ended 9-6 a few years back. Remember that one? Good defensive game.

I'm hoping our game this weekend against UGa goes kinda down that same road. Defensive. Low-scoring. Team with the fewest mistakes wins.

Because our lads are showing great discipline and control so far this year. I think that's our key advantage over the Dawgs.

Go Vols!
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How many points have bama and lsu scored since then?
Wee little Nicky does not even know his FG kickers name.
Current rules favor the offense, you are not likely to beat a good team with 6 or 7 FGs. With time about to expire, yes you kick a FG if it will win. During the game, I'm not so sure.
 
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tnutater said:
How many points have bama and lsu scored since then?
Wee little Nicky does not even know his FG kickers name.
Current rules favor the offense, you are not likely to beat a good team with 6 or 7 FGs. With time about to expire, yes you kick a FG if it will win. During the game, I'm not so sure.
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Brother, I didn't want to debate with you. I thought we were mostly agreeing.

But you've gone and talked me into it, heh.

Didn't have to go too far to find counter-arguments. You mentioned Bama and LSU specifically. So okay, I went and looked at Bama. And found two examples, just from last year, where FGs arguably swung the game:
  • Bama lost to Auburn 48-45 ten months ago, end of November 2019. Do you think they'd like to have gotten one more FG? Sure they would've. And by the way, Auburn scored 4 field goals that game. Bama only connected once on two field goal attempts. Yes, you could argue Auburn's 4 field goals to Bama's 1 were the difference in the game. You could even say that Bama's missed FG was the difference.
  • About a month before that game, Bama lost to LSU, 46-41. LSU had 2 field goals in the game, made 2 for 2. Bama had none. No field goals, and made only 5 of their 6 extra point attempts. Two field goals and 1 extra point total a swing of 7 points. In a game lost by 5.
Maybe Nick Saban doesn't know the name of his place kicker. Maybe you're right. But maybe he should. Heh.


p.s. Yes, it was hugely satisfying to talk about two recent Bama losses while making a point. Hugely. :)
 
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Each team gets only so many offensive possessions in a game.

It takes three possessions that end with a FG to beat one possession with a TD and PAT.

The team that has the best ratio of possessions to touchdowns usually wins.

Good teams have high percentages.
 
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tnutater said:
Each team gets only so many offensive possessions in a game.

It takes three possessions that end with a FG to beat one possession with a TD and PAT.

The team that has the best ratio of possessions to touchdowns usually wins.

Good teams have high percentages.
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Well, sure.

TDs are worth twice as much as FGs.

And water is wet.

Pretty basic stuff here, man. Reminds me of Mark Farner of Grand Funk hitting an "E" chord and holding his guitar way up in the air for applause. Like something amazing just happened.

If that's all you meant, then sure. I agree. TDs are worth more than FGs. Like, twice as much.

Go Vols!
 
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OrangeJuicebox said:
Both of his misses have sailed wide left… Could be it’s some hitch in his technique that he’ll have to refine. Perhaps the awkward off-season and lack of practice time has allowed it to surface.

Could also be nothing. It’s still only two misses after all.
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Suppose the game is 28-27 UGA with 3 seconds left....Cimaglia lines up for a 39 yard FG attempt to win. How confident do you feel???? That's what I thought.
 
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LargeOrange1 said:
Suppose the game is 28-27 UGA with 3 seconds left....Cimaglia lines up for a 39 yard FG attempt to win. How confident do you feel???? That's what I thought.
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Why are you coming at me? Nowhere did I say or imply that there’s no cause for concern, just merely stated potential reasons for his misses.

But since you provoked me, I will go ahead and say that I am a little concerned, but I also understand it might be too early to make an assessment.
 
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tnutater said:
When was the last time tOSU, Clemson, Bama, or Ga lost due to a field goal?
You have to score TDs to beat good teams.
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Georgia lost to South Carolina last year after Hot Rod missed a very makeable kick in OT. Granted, it should have never come to that, but OT continues if he made the kick. @VFL-82-JP outlined the issues Alabama had with kicking last year which made differences in the outcome of their 2 losses.

You're dead right that it takes TDs to beat good teams, but most teams face a situation at least once a year where they need their kicker to make a big kick for them. Do you want to have a game come down to a kick? No, but it is probably going to happen at some point, especially against good competition.
 
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Needs to settle down some for sure. Both his missed kicks were shanks. Before this season, I don't think id ever seen him shank a field goal like that. Must've been the weird offseason, I'm confident he'll get it back.
 
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#46
I think it's an issue with snapper/holder but if not, it could just be a mental funk kicker's go through
 
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05_never_again said:
Georgia lost to South Carolina last year after Hot Rod missed a very makeable kick in OT. Granted, it should have never come to that, but OT continues if he made the kick. @VFL-82-JP outlined the issues Alabama had with kicking last year which made differences in the outcome of their 2 losses.

You're dead right that it takes TDs to beat good teams, but most teams face a situation at least once a year where they need their kicker to make a big kick for them. Do you want to have a game come down to a kick? No, but it is probably going to happen at some point, especially against good competition.
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Hot Rod's Kid kicking this year? He was a Bulldog longer than JG will be a Vol.
 
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