Week 1 QB ratings(SEC)

#79
#79
The problem with JG last night is that he missed guys 3 or 4 times, drive killers btw, by trying to decapitate Manute Bol.

We know he CAN put touch on his throws, the TD pass was a great ball. Why he doesn't do it more often is baffling.
 
#80
#80
BruinVol said:
Yep. When we win a road game and cover the vegas Line and there is a thread entitled “put this game behind us” people need to understand that expectations are a little off around here
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I agree, and not disputing you at all. But, I never put much confidence in Vegas lines so early in the year, especially first games and in a crazy year like this.
 
#81
#81
hUTch2002 said:
It’s also funny to me how every drive we don’t score is now considered “points we should have had”. Even LSU’s record offense from last year didn’t score on every possession. With that said, the first half offense was abysmal. We have to improve there or we will struggle with the lower half SEC teams and lose to the upper tier handily. We did see improvement in the second half so hopefully we will build from that. All I know is 1-0 with a conference road win is way better than 0-1 with a loss at home to GA State.
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If a drive is stopped because a Qb could not make an average SEC standard pass to keep the chains moving , then that is points left of the board. We had probably 5 drives last night stopped because JG could not complete a routine pass. We should have put 50 minimum on the scoreboard last night.
 
#82
#82
MBVFL1 said:
He missed a heck of a lot more than a couple passes, we should've been up by alot more than we were and it's because he over threw everyone and had piss poor passes, i will say he was going to the right spots with the ball but he doesn't have accuracy for ****. We can't keep operating this way our defense gets worn out. I love how people say he was in control and had a good game?? I don't care what his stats look like, the eye test shows the truth and he is terrible
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I thought you told me you played the game before. That was hardly a terrible performance and you know it. It could have been better, but not by a bunch. 5 missed throws that harmlessly fall to the ground just doesn't bother me all that much, I wish ol JG was perfect but I know that's an impossible goal to ask of anyone.
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PulaskiVolFan said:
JG was ranked 3rd in the league last year on 3rd down, we stunk at it last night but won't all season. We also failed to convert a single 3rd down running the football, either you see that as just as big a problem or you simple minded think that's JGs fault as well.
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Last night on 8 3rd Down passing attempts, JG was 1-6 passing and took two sacks. His 1 completion was because B. Johnson made 2020's catch of the year so far.

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Stats be DaMned some times. I got on the game thread after Vandy last year and argued JG shook off a bad start, did his job as manager, and played a good game. Stats be DaMned sometimes & I assure you his stats last night 19-31 260yrds 1TDpass & 1TDrushing blow last years Vandy game out of the water.

Context & the eye test matters sometimes. Just because JG didn't have a bad game doesn't mean he had a good game. JG did not have a good game last night.

I don't care if it's Bailey, Shrout, Maurer, a walk-on QB, or if we run the wildcat with a WR; we simply need better QB play to compete with the upper echelon of the SEC. JG has only had a few of those type games and last night wasn't one of them.
 
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#83
#83
davethevol said:
He was more poised and didn’t seem to lose confidence. I’m guessing a few throws were timing issues and a few were solely on JG.
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I agree...I am going to assume (for the time being) that the lack of practice reps with JG and the receivers has timing off on some of those passes, but yeah....a few of those overthrows were JG trying to aim it like a dart and not throwing the ball.
 
#84
#84
PulaskiVolFan said:
Bama is playing a game manager at QB, Auburn is playing a game manager, Florida is playing a game manager at QB, Tn is playing a game manager and who knows what Ga is going to play. That's 4 of the top 5 teams in the league that has a game manager playing QB, Monde at A&M qualifies more as a game manager, so at least 5 of 6 of the top teams in the SEC are playing game managers at QB.
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Auburn's sophomore game manager that had 3 tds on the road vs a top 25 team?

Florida's game manager that had 416 yards and 6 tds and has articles about him this morning saying he's the next Joe Burrow?

Alabama's game manager who was starting his 6th or 7th game, completed 75 percent of his passes and still ceded playing time to his star back up in a dominating win because he managed the game properly and Alabama was 9-14 on 3rd down.

We have the most experienced QB in the league and he at best looks moderately worse than people with less than 10 starts under their belts.
 
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#85
#85
MemphisVol77 said:
Last night on 8 3rd Down passing attempts, JG was 1-6 passing and took two sacks. His 1 completion was because B. Johnson made 2020's catch of the year so far.

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Stats be DaMned some times. I got on the game thread after Vandy last year and argued JG shook off a bad start, did his job as manager, and played a good game. Stats be DaMned sometimes & I assure you his stats last night 19-31 260yrds 1TDpass & 1TDrushing blow last years Vandy game out of the water.

Context & the eye test matters sometimes. Just because JG didn't have a bad game doesn't mean he had a good game. JG did not have a good game last night.

I don't care if it's Bailey, Shrout, Maurer, a walk-on QB, or if we run the wildcat with a WR; we simply need better QB play to compete with the upper echelon of the SEC. JG has only had a few of those type games and last night wasn't one of them.
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If you know it's going to be JG that Pruitt continues to roll out then it's time for the neverJG bunch to start calling for Coach Pruitt's job or accept that JG is who we have. Hard to call for Pruitt's job I suspect after winning 7 and most likely 8 straight next week.
 
#86
#86
VolArmy74 said:
Auburn's sophomore game manager that had 3 tds on the road vs a top 25 team?

Florida's game manager that had 416 yards and 6 tds and has articles about him this morning saying he's the next Joe Burrow?

Alabama's game manager who was starting his 6th or 7th game, completed 75 percent of his passes and still ceded playing time to his star back up in a dominating win because he managed the game properly and Alabama was 9-14 on 3rd down.

We have the most experienced QB in the league and he at best looks moderately worse than people with less than 10 starts under their belts.
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If you say so but in my opinion those guys are indeed game managers with Trask playing the best of the bunch. I still think he's going to have some bad games as their running game is worse than ours.
 
#87
#87
BruinVol said:
1) trask- Florid
2) Costello-MSU
3) Nix- Auburn
4) JG- Vols
5) Jones- Bama
6) corral- ole miss
7) hill-usce
8)mizzu-
9) Mond- A&M
10) brennan- LSU
11) wilson-Kentucky
12) Georgia
13) Arkansas
14) vandy



Let’s see where you guys ranked the QBs
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Who's ratings are these, your ratings? If so, LOL.
 
#88
#88
hUTch2002 said:
He does and MSU is a perfect fit for him being a middle-of-nowhere, underdog school. If you look at their schedule they could potentially win 8. I think 6 is more realistic as that offense and Costello will have off days. 6-4, maybe 7-3, would be an amazing job though.
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Will be interesting to see if him being in the SEC helps his recruiting at all. He’s proven he can succeed with mid level talent, but I’d like to see what he could do with a team of 4*’s.
 
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#89
#89
PulaskiVolFan said:
If you know it's going to be JG that Pruitt continues to roll out then it's time for the neverJG bunch to start calling for Coach Pruitt's job or accept that JG is who we have. Hard to call for Pruitt's job I suspect after winning 7 and most likely 8 straight next week.
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Yawn ....
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted.

BTW, I've never been anti-JG & have stated several times going back to last year that I thought we we're going to need JG & Maurer at minimum this year. I've repeatedly compared this year's QB situation to 2013's Worley/Dobbs situation.

PulaskiVolFan said:
Hard to call for Pruitt's job I suspect after winning 7 and most likely 8 straight next week.
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I understand JG is a great guy and you've dealt with allot of vitriol taking up for him, but you're putting up a straw Man and moving the goalposts replying to me.

But to answer your suppositional argument insinuating calling for Pruitt's job.....
If last night was the best JG has to offer only a very few will call for Pruitt's job next week.
But by the 2nd half of Georgia, the few will become many if JG hasn't markedly improved from last night.
Me? I'll wait until after week 5 verse Alabama to call for Pruitt's job if JG doesn't play better than last night & Pruitt keeps sending JG out there.
I still think Pruitt can be the man but from 2-0 to 2-3 would be tough to keep trusting.
 
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#90
#90
After 1 week, I'd go:

1. Costello, Miss State
2. Trask, Florida
3. Nix, Auburn
4. Corral, Ole Miss
5. Mac Jones, Alabama
6. Brennan, LSU
7. Hill, SC
8. Wilson, Kentucky
9. JG, Tennessee
10. Mond, A&M
11. Franks, Arkansas
12. Robinson, Mizzou
13. Bennett, Georgia
14. Seals, Vandy

Georgia's QB situation looked bad. Their defense is elite and Arkansas was badly outmatched, but I'm not sold on that passing game at all.

Hill looked better than I expected at SC. JG still looks like the same inconsistent middle-of-the-road QB from last season.

Costello, Trask, Corral, and Nix all had great performances. Brennan looked pretty good at LSU, but his performance is sorta lost in the big upset.
 
#92
#92
ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
If a drive is stopped because a Qb could not make an average SEC standard pass to keep the chains moving , then that is points left of the board. We had probably 5 drives last night stopped because JG could not complete a routine pass. We should have put 50 minimum on the scoreboard last night.
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Just because a first down was missed doesn’t mean that we should’ve had points.
 
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#93
#93
BruinVol said:
I don’t

I think he played a PERFECT game when it came to decision making. The call was thrown to the right person every single time and never in harms way. Sure he missed a few throws but all QBs miss throws in a game
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Those should be automatic for a 5th year Sr starter. Those misses stopped drives and kept the O off the field and out of rhythm.

If stats are the measure as some here demand... he was 8th in QB rating. Brennan is just below him but threw for 345 yds. Completion % was also 8th.

He was 10th out of 10 QB's with at least 7 attempts in 3rd down QBR. He didn't complete a pass in the RZ.

Ten SEC QB's had plays longer than any he threw. He was 9th in plays over 15 yds.

His misses along with or in combination with the OL's failure to push their small DL around kept this game from being a laugher.

1- Costello
2- Trask
3- Bennett- played about a half and had 211 yds and led UGA away from an embarrassing loss.
4- Corral- 395 yds vs UF's D and kept leading his team back even when UF started to pull away
5- Jones
6- Nix
7- Hill
8- Robison- you have to consider the competition and the talent surrounding him
9- JG
10- Brennan
11-Wilson
12- Seals
13- Mond
14- Franks
15- Mathis
 
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#94
#94
hUTch2002 said:
Just because a first down was missed doesn’t mean that we should’ve had points.
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So you are saying that the open, easy throws he missed didn't hurt UT?

Even if they do nothing but flip the field or sustain a drive and keep their O off the field... those plays would have changed the game significantly in the favor of UT had he hit them.

We aren't talking about difficult passes. We're talking about open guys he just overthrew or cross routes where he was late and behind the receiver.
 
#95
#95
sjt18 said:
So you are saying that the open, easy throws he missed didn't hurt UT?

Even if they do nothing but flip the field or sustain a drive and keep their O off the field... those plays would have changed the game significantly in the favor of UT had he hit them.

We aren't talking about difficult passes. We're talking about open guys he just overthrew or cross routes where he was late and behind the receiver.
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Nope. Didn’t say that. There are some folks that seem to think that we should score a TD every drive and that any drive we don’t is “points left on the board”. No one scores every drive. Every QB misses throws. These things happen. But yes, some of his throws certainly stopped drives that could have turned into points. It’s also possible we pick up a first down, run 3 more plays and punt, or that we fumble, or who knows what else. That’s all I’m saying.
 
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#96
#96
hUTch2002 said:
Nope. Didn’t say that. There are some folks that seem to think that we should score a TD every drive and that any drive we don’t is “points left on the board”.
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JG cut drives short by missing open guys that should be automatic throws. If you don't think some of those misses cost UT points then I'm not sure how to help you with that kind of irrational excuse making.

No one scores every drive. Every QB misses throws. These things happen. But yes, some of his throws certainly stopped drives that could have turned into points. It’s also possible we pick up a first down, run 3 more plays and punt, or that we fumble, or who knows what else. That’s all I’m saying.
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Those are NOT throws a "good" SEC starter misses.... and certainly not that many.
 
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#97
#97
leftygray said:
I was surprised at JG’s stat line at the end of the game. I think we can all agree it looked much better on paper than how he actually played.
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Agree, but it could and should have been much better. No turnovers is a very important stat and really helps QB ratings but so do a high completion percentge.
 
#98
#98
DiderotsGhost said:
After 1 week, I'd go:

1. Costello, Miss State
2. Trask, Florida
3. Nix, Auburn
4. Corral, Ole Miss
5. Mac Jones, Alabama
6. Brennan, LSU
7. Hill, SC
8. Wilson, Kentucky
9. JG, Tennessee
10. Mond, A&M
11. Franks, Arkansas
12. Robinson, Mizzou
13. Bennett, Georgia
14. Seals, Vandy

Georgia's QB situation looked bad. Their defense is elite and Arkansas was badly outmatched, but I'm not sold on that passing game at all.

Hill looked better than I expected at SC. JG still looks like the same inconsistent middle-of-the-road QB from last season.

Costello, Trask, Corral, and Nix all had great performances. Brennan looked pretty good at LSU, but his performance is sorta lost in the big upset.
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You realize Bennet came in halfway through the second quarter and went 20/29 for 211 and 2 td’s, right? That’s not heisman level, but easily better than Franks and Wilson. Hell, he covers the spread for UGA if he doesn’t sit the fourth to give Mathis more snaps.
 
#99
#99
sjt18 said:
JG cut drives short by missing open guys that should be automatic throws. If you don't think some of those misses cost UT points then I'm not sure how to help you with that kind of irrational excuse making.


Those are NOT throws a "good" SEC starter misses.... and certainly not that many.
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Why are you struggling so much with comprehension?
 
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