Week 1 QB ratings(SEC)

#51
#51
Sara Clark said:
Good to see you this morning.
Setting aside lackluster performance...J Banks penalty bothered me more than anything. What a talent he is, hope he can get emotions under control for the remainder of the season.
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He's on the team at Pruitt's behest. Any damage he causes with his unsportsmanlike conduct is squarely at the feet of our HC.
 
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#56
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BruinVol said:
I don’t

I think he played a PERFECT game when it came to decision making. The call was thrown to the right person every single time and never in harms way. Sure he missed a few throws but all QBs miss throws in a game
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Was thinking the exact thing. Last three years we were all scratching our head at some of the decisions he made. Last night, every throw was to the right reciever. That alone is a huge improvement. Now, if he could calm down and not overthrow every receiver.
 
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#57
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savannahfan said:
Yeah,, timing issues and throwing issues.... The same as has been for the last,,,, forever... Throws LATE!!!! Throws OVERTHROWN!!!
After being on this squad forever he doesn't seem to ever overcome these problems. As I was suffering to the end of the first half, it seemed to me that 3 for the 4 drives that stood out to me were screwed by him with bad throws. I know I guess I am picking on him. But picking on him or not, as long as we must rely on him (I fear this thought) we are gonna be in for a long season.... Gene Ches just summed up our plight on recap show a minute age. If you have a QB you have a chance in the SEC this year.
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He wasn’t late on his throws last night. He improved greatly on his timing. That last TD throw was a great example. He certainly throws too hard and too high, a lot, but the timing is better, the reads are better (he only had one way to go on those), and I liked the situational running. Let’s see how things go next week before we write him off.
 
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#58
#58
cncchris33 said:
He missed more than a few throws. Of his 12 incompletions, I can immediately think of only 2 that should have been caught. That means nearly ⅓ of his 31 attempts were errant passes. And many were generally way off target in situations where the WR was very much open. It wasn't like he was forced to fit it into a tight window all night.

I do mostly agree with the decision-making aspect, though. He made the correct decision most times. It wasn't PERFECT as you say, however. He held the ball too long on one of the two sacks he took when the opportunity to run or throw it away was there. He also fired that panicked rifle shot to no one across the middle on 3rd down in the red zone when he appeared to have Eric Gray open in the flat.
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He also had a couple more where WR/QB were not on same page and a couple he threw high and away on purpose because nothing was there. He missed on 5 or 6 throws out of 31, check your math as I don't think that adds up to 1/3 of his passes.
 
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#59
#59
He missed a heck of a lot more than a couple passes, we should've been up by alot more than we were and it's because he over threw everyone and had piss poor passes, i will say he was going to the right spots with the ball but he doesn't have accuracy for ****. We can't keep operating this way our defense gets worn out. I love how people say he was in control and had a good game?? I don't care what his stats look like, the eye test shows the truth and he is terrible
 
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#62
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MBVFL1 said:
He missed a heck of a lot more than a couple passes, we should've been up by alot more than we were and it's because he over threw everyone and had piss poor passes, i will say he was going to the right spots with the ball but he doesn't have accuracy for ****. We can't keep operating this way our defense gets worn out. I love how people say he was in control and had a good game?? I don't care what his stats look like, the eye test shows the truth and he is terrible
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I thought you told me you played the game before. That was hardly a terrible performance and you know it. It could have been better, but not by a bunch. 5 missed throws that harmlessly fall to the ground just doesn't bother me all that much, I wish ol JG was perfect but I know that's an impossible goal to ask of anyone.
 
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#63
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hUTch2002 said:
He wasn’t late on his throws last night. He improved greatly on his timing. That last TD throw was a great example. He certainly throws too hard and too high, a lot, but the timing is better, the reads are better (he only had one way to go on those), and I liked the situational running. Let’s see how things go next week before we write him off.
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With all due respect, he missed a lot of throws. The receivers got separation yet JG would throw behind them or over them. Big difference in them having to slow down or stop and make a catch, compared to them catching it in stride and making a big gain. And the overthrown balls, not sure what that was other than possible mechanics. The receivers were open and the throws were to the sideline, so I'm not sure we can say he was being overly careful not to get intercepted.
He did make better throws down the field, so I will give you that but being unable to make the short throws will cost us against good teams.
Maybe it's first game nerves and these will be corrected, but after 5 years, I have my doubts.
 
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BruinVol said:
I don’t

I think he played a PERFECT game when it came to decision making. The call was thrown to the right person every single time and never in harms way. Sure he missed a few throws but all QBs miss throws in a game
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He didn't go awal.. thats a plus. I just wish he would be consistent. One way or another, good or bad. He made some great plays/decisions, however, long throws are not his strength in this game.
 
#65
#65
BruinVol said:
1) trask- Florid
2) Costello-MSU
3) Nix- Auburn
4) Jones- Bama
5) corral- ole miss
6) backup - Georgia
7) hill-usce
8) JG
Did not watch the one's below so I can't rate them - Mond has historically played better than JG.
9)mizzu-
10) Mond- A&M
11) brennan- LSU
12) wilson-Kentucky
13) Arkansas
14) vandy



Let’s see where you guys ranked the QBs
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Misleading stats are misleading - a much truer mark for evaluation JG as a quarterback would probably be third down completion percentage and Red Zone completion percentage where he probably falls in the lower 10 % of all quarterbacks to have ever played. He might actually fall in the lowest 5%.
It isn't necessarily his fault mentally - his mechanics result in a very slow and long delivery - which contributes to poor timing and execution on intermediate routes that require quick decisions and really good timing. ( The receiver is already there and open when he starts his delivery motion. By the time he
finally processes it and gets it out - he is behind or over the receiver with his pass. ) All 3 other quarterbacks are better at this I am sure ..... but they don't have JG's game experience.

JG can throw a decent long ball - where timing and release are not nearly as important and of course the dump offs - semi handoffs that my grandmother could complete.

We did win a road game - with some breaks we can beat the lower tier teams in the conference - JG is JG - 1 of 11 on third downs will get you curb stomped against the better teams in the SEC.
 
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#66
#66
Fullfillmer said:
Misleading stats are misleading - a much truer mark for evaluation JG as a quarterback would probably be third down completion percentage and Red Zone completion percentage where he probably falls in the lower 10 % of all quarterbacks to have ever played. He might actually fall in the lowest 5%.
It isn't necessarily his fault mentally - his mechanics result in a very slow and long delivery - which contributes to poor timing and execution on intermediate routes that require quick decisions and really good timing. ( The receiver is already there and open when he starts his delivery motion. By the time he
finally processes it and gets it out - he is behind or over the receiver with his pass. ) All 3 other quarterbacks are better at this I am sure ..... but they don't have JG's game experience.

JG can throw a decent long ball - where timing and release are not nearly as important and of course the dump offs - semi handoffs that my grandmother could complete.

We did win a road game - with some breaks we can beat the lower tier teams in the conference - JG is JG - 1 of 11 on third downs will get you curb stomped against the better teams in the SEC.
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“this stat doesn’t say what I want it to say, so it’s a bad stat”
 
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#67
#67
Fullfillmer said:
Misleading stats are misleading - a much truer mark for evaluation JG as a quarterback would probably be third down completion percentage and Red Zone completion percentage where he probably falls in the lower 10 % of all quarterbacks to have ever played. He might actually fall in the lowest 5%.
It isn't necessarily his fault mentally - his mechanics result in a very slow and long delivery - which contributes to poor timing and execution on intermediate routes that require quick decisions and really good timing. ( The receiver is already there and open when he starts his delivery motion. By the time he
finally processes it and gets it out - he is behind or over the receiver with his pass. ) All 3 other quarterbacks are better at this I am sure ..... but they don't have JG's game experience.

JG can throw a decent long ball - where timing and release are not nearly as important and of course the dump offs - semi handoffs that my grandmother could complete.

We did win a road game - with some breaks we can beat the lower tier teams in the conference - JG is JG - 1 of 11 on third downs will get you curb stomped against the better teams in the SEC.
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JG was ranked 3rd in the league last year on 3rd down, we stunk at it last night but won't all season. We also failed to convert a single 3rd down running the football, either you see that as just as big a problem or you simple minded think that's JGs fault as well.
 
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#68
#68
ALStateLineVol said:
With all due respect, he missed a lot of throws. The receivers got separation yet JG would throw behind them or over them. Big difference in them having to slow down or stop and make a catch, compared to them catching it in stride and making a big gain. And the overthrown balls, not sure what that was other than possible mechanics. The receivers were open and the throws were to the sideline, so I'm not sure we can say he was being overly careful not to get intercepted.
He did make better throws down the field, so I will give you that but being unable to make the short throws will cost us against good teams.
Maybe it's first game nerves and these will be corrected, but after 5 years, I have my doubts.
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I don’t disagree at all. I doubt he will turn into something other than what we’ve seen the last few years but he will be starting next week, he has shown some improvement, and the kid is certainly tough mentally and physically. I definitely agree he isn’t accurate. Even his completions often aren’t placed well for the WR.
 
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#70
#70
PulaskiVolFan said:
I thought you told me you played the game before. That was hardly a terrible performance and you know it. It could have been better, but not by a bunch. 5 missed throws that harmlessly fall to the ground just doesn't bother me all that much, I wish ol JG was perfect but I know that's an impossible goal to ask of anyone.
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No through my eyes it was terrible, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, yeah I did play at UT for coach Fulmer and I know what a good qb looks like and unfortunately JG is not it but he's serviceable option. I'm rooting for him though, I think he has improved in certain aspects he's going to the right spot with the ball but continues to over throw his receivers over and over again. Yeah throws falling to the ground is better than ints but a reception to a wide open receiver is better. At the end of the day it was game 1, timing was a bit off but the over throws killed drives multiple times. But hey it's a W and time to turn attention to Mizzou.

Go Vols!
 
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#71
#71
A 5th year senior with as many starts as JG shouldn't be all over the place drive to drive. One series he's behind his receivers. One he's over their heads. One he's perfect. Barring a miracle, South Carolina is another bad team and we couldn't score against them because we couldn't convert 3rd downs. If one of the back up QBs isn't better by now, we are in major trouble for as long as this staff is in place. You can't have a game manager QB any more if you want to win at the highest levels. Especially this year with an all SEC schedule.
 
#72
#72
MBVFL1 said:
No through my eyes it was terrible, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one, yeah I did play at UT for coach Fulmer and I know what a good qb looks like and unfortunately JG is not it but he's serviceable option. I'm rooting for him though, I think he has improved in certain aspects he's going to the right spot with the ball but continues to over throw his receivers over and over again. Yeah throws falling to the ground is better than ints but a reception to a wide open receiver is better. At the end of the day it was game 1, timing was a bit off but the over throws killed drives multiple times. But hey it's a W and time to turn attention to Mizzou.

Go Vols!
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We're gonna have to make serviceable work somehow I believe. We've done it before with that type QB, looks like we'll need to do it again this season. If at the end of the year our QBs average 260 yards, 2 TDs and zero interceptions I would assume we've had a pretty great season.
 
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#73
#73
VolArmy74 said:
A 5th year senior with as many starts as JG shouldn't be all over the place drive to drive. One series he's behind his receivers. One he's over their heads. One he's perfect. Barring a miracle, South Carolina is another bad team and we couldn't score against them because we couldn't convert 3rd downs. If one of the back up QBs isn't better by now, we are in major trouble for as long as this staff is in place. You can't have a game manager QB any more if you want to win at the highest levels. Especially this year with an all SEC schedule.
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Bama is playing a game manager at QB, Auburn is playing a game manager, Florida is playing a game manager at QB, Tn is playing a game manager and who knows what Ga is going to play. That's 4 of the top 5 teams in the league that has a game manager playing QB, Monde at A&M qualifies more as a game manager, so at least 5 of 6 of the top teams in the SEC are playing game managers at QB.
 
#74
#74
Atlanta917 said:
I’m honestly just impressed Leach did so well. Even with LSU missing so many players, it was an impressive win to start his MSU career. Leach has a good track record building up teams like TTU and WSU.
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He does and MSU is a perfect fit for him being a middle-of-nowhere, underdog school. If you look at their schedule they could potentially win 8. I think 6 is more realistic as that offense and Costello will have off days. 6-4, maybe 7-3, would be an amazing job though.
 
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