Weakest Crop of QBs in SEC East in Awhile

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JG is a veteran quarterback with a ton of experience. The downfall is that JG has new receivers running routes that he hasn't worked with. Ahh, who am I kidding? He didn't hit the receivers when he knew what routes they were running.

All joking aside, I am hopeful our offensive line is strong enough that we can run it up the middle every down and never have to pass.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
He wasnt coached for almost 7 months this year...thats why Chaney lost weight. He had a lot less stress eating due to trying to coach JG up.

So, he is going to have another mediocre year due mostly to his current skillset and lack of coaching for months. The dude isn't "great" and only "good" sometimes.
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Chaney lost weight?
 
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VolJarhead said:
JG is a veteran quarterback with a ton of experience. The downfall is that JG has new receivers running routes that he hasn't worked with. Ahh, who am I kidding? He didn't hit the receivers when he knew what routes they were running.

All joking aside, I am hopeful our offensive line is strong enough that we can run it up the middle every down and never have to pass.
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I've known plenty of people like that throughout my life who were still terrible at their profession, job, hobby, etc.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Yeah there was a video of him and he had slimmed down some but it isn't like he will be modeling his six pack abs anytime soon. Probably hovering around 450-500 now.
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Needless to say that is extremely dangerous and you would think the UT wellness team would be all over it. Maybe they have which is the reason for the initial weight loss. I used to think some of the fat jokes were partially funny but as he continued to gain you realize health has to be a major issue when you look at him.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Needless to say that is extremely dangerous and you would think the UT wellness team would be all over it. Maybe they have which is the reason for the initial weight loss. I used to think some of the fat jokes were partially funny but as he continued to gain you realize health has to be a major issue when you look at him.
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Yeah, I'd like to see the guy get to a healthy weight. He has more options available than the average person, lets hope he is using them.
 
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rdk4121 said:
In the West, Mond is very good, Nix should get better. Jones was at least decent last year, and should get better. Costello has the experience I guess. Brennan and the other two to be announced are unknowns.
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Ole Miss may not have announced a starter yet (I think they go with Corral) but Arkansas seems pretty locked in on Feleipe Franks.

Costello and Brennan are the two I’m most intrigued to see. On paper Costello is probably more proven/highly regarded than any QB Leach had at Washington State.
 
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rdk4121 said:
I think JG is easily the second best QB in the East behind Trask. Not really saying much, but yeah. Wilson is the only one that is even close, but JG outperformed him head to head in 2018, plus Wilson is coming off a very serious injury. Three East teams haven't even announced a starter, mostly because they all are in less than ideal situations. Hill is a middle of the road guy.

In the West, Mond is very good, Nix should get better. Jones was at least decent last year, and should get better. Costello has the experience I guess. Brennan and the other two to be announced are unknowns.
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I've said it all offseason, we're not in anywhere near the dire situation other teams in the SEC are with the QB position. The neverJGers have never been right.
 
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gohogs14 said:
Ole Miss may not have announced a starter yet (I think they go with Corral) but Arkansas seems pretty locked in on Feleipe Franks.

Costello and Brennan are the two I’m most intrigued to see. On paper Costello is probably more proven/highly regarded than any QB Leach had at Washington State.
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Forgot about Franks, he's very similar to JG. Talented but very inconsistent. Florida is better since Trask took over.
 
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rdk4121 said:
Forgot about Franks, he's very similar to JG. Talented but very inconsistent. Florida is better since Trask took over.
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Only one game difference really in wins. I think Florida is better because Mullen is a good football coach. They've got a veteran football team they'll be good again regardless who they play at QB as their backup isn't bad either. Our strengths matchup pretty good with them this year as our pass defense is going to be the best in the conference I feel.
 
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Ok. What am I missing on JT Daniels??? He doesn't seem to get any respect here....and other then being a Bulldog, why???
2019 injured
2018 played well vs ranked #3 ND and #19 CO
His worse games were #10 Stan and Utah

His other games are consistent with a true freshman...ups and downs. And avg 33 attempts a game
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
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Anybody that looks at this list and would trade with anybody other than MAYBE 4 other teams is not thinking clearly I think.
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Yeah. I see 4 out of the announced that I would take over JG right now. Mond and Wilson would be a wash. Hill and Brennan? Just don't know.

In a year where veteran leadership is going to be key, I'm glad we've got a veteran QB who has won games in this league, especially the wins on the road.
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Wow... you just can't give that idea up, can you? He hasn't "won games in this league". You consistently give him far more credit than deserved and put more blame on others than deserved.

I'm not sure I'd trade QB rooms with any other team out there. You guys can pick Trask all you want but I think he's going to suffer a pretty good "sophomore slump".
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Hard to say. There is a sliver of a chance... and yes I've always allowed for that... that the lights come on for JG. I still believe the problems he's had point to something innate in the way he processes the information he sees... but we'll see.

As far as the "room" is concerned... you are away that Maurer is still in that room, right?

For my part, Maurer is still anything but a proven commodity. He had some flashes but his decision making (though timely) was often pretty bad. His injuries last year could point to a propensity to having head injuries. He's now been slowed by a hamstring injury. He would not be the first talented guy who could not physically hold up to SEC level football.

Shrout has the arm and passing instincts but his development in the system seems to have been much slower than you'd expect. There's really not much info to go on. If he ever learns the O then he could become a very good QB.

HB has talent but if he becomes the starter this year... the O is limited by his experience and knowledge. UT doesn't have the talent to cover him like Clemson did Lawrence. The Vols would be forced into an O designed to protect him and hope to win with the run game and D. Essentially I don't see any point this season where he offers more than JG. Next year? Maybe.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I've said it all offseason, we're not in anywhere near the dire situation other teams in the SEC are with the QB position. The neverJGers have never been right.
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I'll give you that, most other teams don't have a 4*-rated RS Senior QB who has averaged 1TD/game over their career.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Ok. What am I missing on JT Daniels??? He doesn't seem to get any respect here....and other then being a Bulldog, why???
2019 injured
2018 played well vs ranked #3 ND and #19 CO
His worse games were #10 Stan and Utah

His other games are consistent with a true freshman...ups and downs. And avg 33 attempts a game
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First and foremost, he's not even medically cleared to play.
He was certainly decent at USC his freshman year, but there's just a lot of unknown about him given the injury and the weird offseason. Then all the reports of Newman being the starter didn't really instill confidence in him. The only reason he gets hype is because he was a 5 star recruit. He might turn out decent or really good, but really nothing he's shown so far in his career would be a guarantee of success going forward.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
I've said it all offseason, we're not in anywhere near the dire situation other teams in the SEC are with the QB position. The neverJGers have never been right.
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And there's that stupid label again... there are a handful here that do not like JG. I can't say why... but fully recognize that they'll never accept him no matter what he does. They have never given him credit for improvement or anything else.

Then... there's folks like you who try to justify your rejection of valid, reasonable criticism by "labeling" those who don't drink kool-aid with you. I wish JG could turn the corner and do well... but that does not change what he's done to date. That's not personal. He has always appeared to process information slowly and failed to anticipate throws. It was a problem as a RS Fr. It was a problem as a RS Jr. Recognizing something that's pretty obvious doesn't make someone a "neverJGer" (I feel stupid for even typing something that dumb). It is just a matter of recognizing UT needs MUCH better play from the QB position if they're going to compete with the top tier teams. JG has never played at that level... nor has any other QB on this roster.

FTR, I hope Shrout turns the corner and finally learns and manages the offense at a level you would expect from a 3rd year player.

I hope that Maurer turns the corner and eliminates stupid mistakes and proves he can stay healthy.
 
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sjt18 said:
And there's that stupid label again... there are a handful here that do not like JG. I can't say why... but fully recognize that they'll never accept him no matter what he does. They have never given him credit for improvement or anything else.

Then... there's folks like you who try to justify your rejection of valid, reasonable criticism by "labeling" those who don't drink kool-aid with you. I wish JG could turn the corner and do well... but that does not change what he's done to date. That's not personal. He has always appeared to process information slowly and failed to anticipate throws. It was a problem as a RS Fr. It was a problem as a RS Jr. Recognizing something that's pretty obvious doesn't make someone a "neverJGer" (I feel stupid for even typing something that dumb). It is just a matter of recognizing UT needs MUCH better play from the QB position if they're going to compete with the top tier teams. JG has never played at that level... nor has any other QB on this roster.

FTR, I hope Shrout turns the corner and finally learns and manages the offense at a level you would expect from a 3rd year player.

I hope that Maurer turns the corner and eliminates stupid mistakes and proves he can stay healthy.
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You seem to be the only one that has a problem with it, the rest of those guys wear that badge proudly. At least they stand behind their convictions rather than being wishy washy. Those guys claim he's reached his ceiling and it's time to move on, do you feel differently?
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
You seem to be the only one that has a problem with it, the rest of those guys wear that badge proudly. At least they stand behind their convictions rather than being wishy washy. Those guys claim he's reached his ceiling and it's time to move on, do you feel differently?
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So you're going on record as saying your definition of "hating JG"= believing that he is at or very near his ceiling as a QB?
 
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BeardedVol said:
So you're going on record as saying your definition of "hating JG"= believing that he is at or very near his ceiling as a QB?
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There you go again with just a simple thought and not capable of comprehension. I don't use the word hate very often so not sure how you come up with such a ridiculous conclusion.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
There you go again with just a simple thought and not capable of comprehension. I don't use the word hate very often so not sure how you come up with such a ridiculous conclusion.
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Please do explain your statement then:

PulaskiVolFan said:
You seem to be the only one that has a problem with it, the rest of those guys wear that badge proudly. At least they stand behind their convictions rather than being wishy washy. Those guys claim he's reached his ceiling and it's time to move on, do you feel differently?
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I'm a sucker for your mental gymnastics; always an enjoyable show.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Where did I use the word hate in any of that?
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Not in that but here

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Lol, whatever. You can call it what you want, I call your 4000+ post doing nothing but crapping on our starting QB as hate, not sure why you hate him so much as he's done nothing but pour his guts out for this football program.
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So it assumed when you refer to people as neverJGers that's what your saying...
 
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BeardedVol said:
So you are saying that a "neverJGer" = believing that he is at or very near his ceiling as a QB, but doesn't "hate" him as you've previously stated?
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He will wont respond for a bit and will pop up spouting more JG hype and just flat out lies
 
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