American war dead are "Losers and Suckers," per Trump

INTEGRITY : noun. The quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness.

Integrity doesn't concern identifying oneself. Now, I do wish that John Kelly would go on the record, but it is not a requirement for demonstrating integrity.

It’s a requirement of verifying a story if he’s the one that said it . Hiding in the shadows and being afraid for whatever reason after two years isn’t an excuse if you decide you need it to get out . That does go toward integrity otherwise you aren’t any different than the others that slink around and gossip .
 
INTEGRITY : noun. The quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness.

Integrity doesn't concern identifying oneself. Now, I do wish that John Kelly would go on the record, but it is not a requirement for demonstrating integrity.
So now you have drilled down to John Kelly as the only person that can substantiate the crap magazines claims? Unless he claims the president is innocent, then he is guilty?
 
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It’s a requirement of verifying a story if he’s the one that said it . Hiding in the shadows and being afraid for whatever reason after two years isn’t an excuse if you decide you need it to get out . That does go toward integrity otherwise you aren’t any different than the others that slink around and gossip .
A source does not have to go public with their identity in order to verify information.
 
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So now you have drilled down to John Kelly as the only person that can substantiate the crap magazines claims? Unless he claims the president is innocent, then he is guilty?

Yes he’s been angling toward that since it started . Not only that but if he ( Kelly ) doesn’t verify its , it doesn’t mean it wasn’t him or not true . Lol
 
A source does not have to go public with their identity in order to verify information.

They do if they want the story to be believed . Like I said why would Kelly have not already said Trump said this ? Distinguished military career , son killed in action , no longer in government or military , zero to lose and doesn’t like Trump .
 
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Yes he’s been angling toward that since it started . Not only that but if he ( Kelly ) doesn’t verify its , it doesn’t mean it wasn’t him or not true . Lol
It's already been proven that the weather was crap and they were not going to let the president fly Marine One that day. So 2 years later someone decides to make an issue out of this right before a presidential election. Yep, nothing stink here does it?
 
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So now you have drilled down to John Kelly as the only person that can substantiate the crap magazines claims? Unless he claims the president is innocent, then he is guilty?
No, I have made a reasonable conclusion that John Kelly was one of the sources used by Jeffrey Goldberg in his article published in The Atlantic, and that Kelly was also a source that Jennifer Griffin used to verify Goldberg's article for Fox News.

Read Donald Trump's tweets from yesterday. Trump also clearly believes that John Kelly was a source for this story. I believe that John Kelly has more integrity than Donald Trump and his political appointees do, but you can choose to believe whatever you want.

And until John Kelly denies that he was a source, it's just too obvious to think otherwise. Kelly is obviously one of the sources.
 
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No, I have made a reasonable conclusion that John Kelly was one of the sources used by Jeffrey Goldberg in his article published in The Atlantic, and that Kelly was also a source that Jennifer Griffin used to verify Goldberg's article for Fox News.

Read Donald Trump's tweets from yesterday. Trump also clearly believes that John Kelly was a source for this story. I believe that John Kelly has more integrity than Donald Trump and his political appointees do, but you can choose to believe whatever you want.

And until John Kelly denies that he was a source, it's just too obvious to think otherwise. Kelly is obviously one of the sources.
Boo Hoo. Vote for Biden, I don't believe these last minute "revelations" for stuff that happened 2 years ago right before an election. What do you want to bet that some salacious stuff come up about Biden in the next few days?
 
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They do if they want the story to be believed . Like I said why would Kelly have not already said Trump said this ? Distinguished military career , son killed in action , no longer in government or military , zero to lose and doesn’t like Trump .
4 star general in the Marine Corps? Definitely sounds like someone that is afraid of getting mean tweets.

The editor-in-chief of the Atlantic — who published a bombshell report Thursday night detailing disparaging remarks that President Trump allegedly made about dead American soldiers during a 2018 trip to France — said Friday that his sources refused to go on the record despite his best efforts because they were concerned about being publicly derided by the president. They don’t want to be inundated with angry tweets and all the rest.

Sources for Trump Military Remarks Refused to Go On Record to Avoid Backlash | National Review
 
Absolutely.
A couple of things. The owner of the Atlantic which is a left wing newspaper is owned by a billionaire who is a mega donor to the Joe Biden camp. All of this is anonymous sources which is a joke in itself. Don't say the Griffin woman story was in the first person, if you read far enough it will state that her story is from two anonymous sources. I am all for eliminating the protection of anonymous sources. It is being used to create sedition against this country and there needs to be an accounting take place. Now I will say this, if Trump did say that then he needs to have his azz handed to him, also if the writers of the story is creating a false story then they need to do some serious jail time for sedition. I personally know what it is like to be disparaged as a soldier and I carry a strong dislike to this day for the elements that fostered that in this country. I do not give a rats azz which side of the aisle people are on, if we do not get back to truth in the government and media this country will become a failed state. HIstory has a tendency to repeat itself. And for the people who say Trump started it- "Two wrongs do not make a right"
 
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It's already been proven that the weather was crap and they were not going to let the president fly Marine One that day. So 2 years later someone decides to make an issue out of this right before a presidential election. Yep, nothing stink here does it?

I'm sure they discussed the best time to release the info. IMO if they are telling the truth they will confirm it before the election. If they don't step forward there's no alternative but to believe it's only a hit job and a hoax. Either way it It won't change my opinion of DJT.
 
4 star general in the Marine Corps? Definitely sounds like someone that is afraid of getting mean tweets or being criticized.



Sources for Trump Military Remarks Refused to Go On Record to Avoid Backlash | National Review

That’s what I’m saying , I don’t believe anyone that says Kelly is afraid of anything , he doesn’t strike me as a man that has much fear . I also don’t believe he would tolerate a lot of bullsh!t from anybody . He has nothing to lose whatsoever . He can hold one interview and crush Trump . Sooooooo
 
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John Kelly did lie about not being aware of the abuse allegations from Rob Porter's wife. So, you do have that. Kelly wasn't really lying about the White House not being involved in chaos. That would be called "spin", which was part of his job at the time.

I will put the track record of John Kelly up against that of Donald Trump any time. Even yesterday, Trump was caught in a lie when he claimed that he had called Melania in Washington, from Paris, to tell her how disappointed he was that the trip to the cemetery had been canceled. In fact, Melania was also in Paris at the time. These kind of lies occur so much with Trump that they don't even garner attention any more. Everyone understands that he lies on a regular basis.
 
John Kelly did lie about not being aware of the abuse allegations from Rob Porter's wife. So, you do have that. Kelly wasn't really lying about the White House not being involved in chaos. That would be called "spin", which was part of his job at the time.

I will put the track record of John Kelly up against that of Donald Trump any time. Even yesterday, Trump was caught in a lie when he claimed that he had called Melania in Washington, from Paris, to tell her how disappointed he was that the trip to the cemetery had been canceled. In fact, Melania was also in Paris at the time. These kind of lies occur so much with Trump that they don't even garner attention any more. Everyone understands that he lies on a regular basis.
As I would also put John Kelly above trumps opinion. We do not have John Kelly's statement.
 
As I would also put John Kelly above trumps opinion. We do not have John Kelly's statement.
We don't .... but really, we do. Trump basically accused Kelly of being a source in one of his tweets yesterday, and Kelly has still not denied it. If Kelly wasn't a source, I think he would have issued a statement of denial by now.
 
We don't .... but really, we do. Trump basically accused Kelly of being a source in one of his tweets yesterday, and Kelly has still not denied it. If Kelly wasn't a source, I think he would have issued a statement of denial by now.

No we actually don’t .. there’s no basically to it . We either have him on record or we don’t .
 
This is what happens when the left continually throw **** at the wall and hope it sticks. Its the little boy who cried wolf. Even if its true most people brush it off as another political hit job by the dems to try and infulence the election. They dont really have a platform to stand on so their only hope is to try and smear Trump.
 
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No we actually don’t .. there’s no basically to it . We either have him on record or we don’t .
I understand what you are saying, and while I agree with you in premise... it's just so obvious that John Kelly is one of the sources. This isn't exactly like trying to uncover who "Deep Throat" was.
 
So what’s the deal here? Trumpers won’t believe this without verified sources, and if they are verified, your vote isn’t going to change anyway?
If John Kelly does decide to put his name behind these allegations... we know damn well that the Trump supporters will just shift gears towards trying to discredit Kelly. They won't believe this with verified sources, and they won't believe this without verified sources.
 
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