Marxist Black Lives Matter

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Mick said:
The reality is systemic racism in law enforcement.
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The reality is a lack of self responsibility. Don’t be stupid and you won’t get hurt . If everyone thinks the cops are racists including you when they pull you over .. why on earth would you act ignorant. Stop with the stupid sh!t . 🤷‍♂️
 
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jp1 said:
Quote whatever you want to quote, but when you are using population numbers of whites and blacks to determine the likelihood of being killed by police during an encounter then you are assuming everyone in that population is having a police encounter. Thats not correct. I don't know how else to explain it to you.
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Why would I assume that? That's an idiotic statistical inference. We already know blacks have disproportionately more interactions with cops.
 
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Mick said:
That graph you used: It's true more white people are killed by cops than African Americans but that's not the argument or issue. The issue is African Americans are disproportionately killed by cops. You do know what disproportionately means right? It means since 73% of the population is white then 73% of the police killings should be white and only 13% should be African Americans. That's not the case as your graph shows.
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This is what I was responding to.
 
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Mick said:
Why would I assume that? We already know blacks have disproportionately more interactions with cops.
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So what percentage of the proportion gap are you attributing to racism? It can't possibly be 100%, can it? What is a reasonable guess?
 
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Mick said:
Why would you adjust for violent crime rate? Since when did counterfeiting or selling loose cigarettes become violent crimes.
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Because violent crimes by violent people lead to more violent interactions with police. Obviously.

But yes. I see how if the stats fall apart right in front of your eyes we are right back to this idea of saying one single incident is a nationwide crisis.

For the narrative, truth be damned.
 
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jp1 said:
Whatever....im politely trying to tell you that your analysis is wrong. Carry on.
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That is the more relevant measure of proportion than trying to say since blacks have more interactions with police and since they commit disproportionately more violent crimes. that it's justified to disproportionately kill more blacks for non violent crimes. If you want to go back and politely tell the others their analysis is wrong, that would be great.
 
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Mick said:
That is the more relevant measure of proportion than trying to say since blacks have more interactions with police and since they commit disproportionately more violent crimes. that it's justified to disproportionately kill more blacks for non violent crimes. If you want to go back and politely tell the others their analysis is wrong, that would be great.
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Link? Or are we just spewing more alternative facts?
 
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Mick said:
That is the more relevant measure of proportion than trying to say since blacks have more interactions with police and since they commit disproportionately more violent crimes. that it's justified to disproportionately kill more blacks for non violent crimes. If you want to go back and politely tell the others their analysis is wrong, that would be great.
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No, it would not be a more relevant measure in this instance that you are debating. If you want to argue that blacks are profiled, targeted, arrested disproportionately more than whites then that is an entirely different argument.
 
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jp1 said:
No, it would not be a more relevant measure in this instance that you are debating. If you want to argue that blacks are profiled, targeted, arrested disproportionately more than whites then that is an entirely different argument.
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That has been the argument for many years but you seem to agree with the others that their measure of porportion is better than the one I'm using. How would you measure proportion? You can't use proportion of violent crimes to justify use of deadly force considering being killed by a cop doesn't depend on weather it was even a crime or not.
 
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Mick said:
That has been the argument for many years but you seem to agree with the others that their measure of porportion is better than the one I'm using. How would you measure proportion? You can't use proportion of violent crimes to justify use of deadly force considering being killed by a cop doesn't depend on weather it was even a crime or not.
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Really? They are totally unrelated?

Remind me again why the police were there in the Jacob Blake case? Refresh my memory on that one? Jesus... The ignorance is real.
 
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Mick said:
That has been the argument for many years but you seem to agree with the others that their measure of porportion is better than the one I'm using. How would you measure proportion? You can't use proportion of violent crimes to justify use of deadly force considering being killed by a cop doesn't depend on weather it was even a crime or not.
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I honestly don't know what metric is best, as I don't know what is recorded or measured. It would have to be something that included all police encounters for a given race and not just population numbers.
 
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Mick said:
Well, I can't help you. I've tried but you're still one ignorant fool.
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You have zero point. You are relying on the foolish claim that violent criminals should be no more likely to have violent encounters with police than moms pulled over for speeding in their mini vans. You have removed the citizens behavior entirely from the equation. It is nonsensical, and is the result of starting with the axiomatic idea that black people are being hunted in the streets and working backwards from there.

When you think like that, you end up just spouting ideas that make zero sense, whatsoever.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
You have zero point. You are relying on the foolish claim that violent criminals should be no more likely to have violent encounters with police than moms pulled over for speeding in their mini vans. You have removed the citizens behavior entirely from the equation. It is nonsensical, and is the result of starting with the axiomatic idea that black people are being hunted in the streets and working backwards from there.

When you think like that, you end up just spouting ideas that make zero sense, whatsoever.
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I guess the point you would like to make is that there is no systemic police racism by pointing out blacks commit more violent crimes than whites proportionately and that when police encounter black people they should rely on that information to gauge how much force to use. SMDH. You're making my point for me.
 
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Mick said:
I guess the point you would like to make is that there is no systemic police racism by pointing out blacks commit more violent crimes than whites proportionately and that when police encounter black people they should rely on that information to gauge how much force to use. SMDH. You're making my point for me.
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Wtf are you talking about? Do I really have to hold your hand through the entire argument?

1. Violent criminals are more likely to have violent police interactions.

2. On a per capita basis, there are more violent black criminals than white violent criminals.

3. This accounts for the disparity that black people are shot by the police vs white people.

In other words, non-violent white citizens are no less likely to be shot than non-violent black citizens.

It could not be more simple.

An Empirical Analysis of Racial Differences in Police Use of Force
 
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