Marxist Black Lives Matter

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k-town_king said:
A ton of pretty much all white or mostly white states did not report. The black population of NY state is also not that high. So . . .

Also abortion isn't slaughter.

Why don't conservatives worry about actual children who are starving and poor. Stop trying to police women's bodies for political power.
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At least you are consistent in your evil
 
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Destroyed Kenosha business vows to reopen; defy looters after overwhelming support from community

"Kenosha Black Lives Matter organizer, Whitney Cabal (aka Billy Violet), stated when reached for comments during a national protest in Washington, D.C. this week:

“People are mad. Until this city hears that the officer has been fired or what the update is, the city is going to keep burning.”

This was also the message that she delivered via phone call to Kenosha District Attorney, Mike Graveley. She told him that the criminal investigators from the Wisconsin Department of Justice need to be transparent with the public about the progress of the Jacob Blake case.

She indicated that the consequences of not doing so would be a continuation of the destruction. Cabal also mentioned to Insider that BLM protestors from out of state arrived in the city to bolster the demonstrations on Monday. "
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This is just flat out accelerating into terrorism.

Can anyone imagine had the Virginia, Actually Peacefull, gun protests (was that really this same year, 2020?) devolved into community burning riots and militia leaders made these kind of statements?

BTW, I've posted empirical data several times showing that police disproportionately killing/targeting blacks is a false narrative. Please address that in full before falsely arguing, murder by police, as justification for terrorism.
That's racist!
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
Destroyed Kenosha business vows to reopen; defy looters after overwhelming support from community


This is just flat out accelerating into terrorism.

Can anyone imagine had the Virginia, Actually Peacefull, gun protests (was that really this same year, 2020?) devolved into community burning riots and militia leaders made these kind of statements?

BTW, I've posted empirical data several times showing that police disproportionately killing/targeting blacks is a false narrative. Please address that in full before falsely arguing, murder by police, as justification for terrorism.
That's racist!
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That graph you used: It's true more white people are killed by cops than African Americans but that's not the argument or issue. The issue is African Americans are disproportionately killed by cops. You do know what disproportionately means right? It means since 73% of the population is white then 73% of the police killings should be white and only 13% should be African Americans. That's not the case as your graph shows.
 
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Mick said:
That graph you used: It's true more white people are killed by cops than African Americans but that's not the argument or issue. The issue is African Americans are disproportionately killed by cops. You do know what disproportionately means right? It means since 73% of the population is white then 73% of the police killings should be white and only 13% should be African Americans. That's not the case as your graph shows.
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You're being quite selective in how you break down the "disproportionate" nature of this. If you were trying to be intellectually honest, you would break it down by percentage of each race killed per interaction with police. I think you would be surprised. And your jaw would probably drop to the floor when you found out how many of the killings of blacks were completed by black law enforcement officers.
 
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Mick said:
That graph you used: It's true more white people are killed by cops than African Americans but that's not the argument or issue. The issue is African Americans are disproportionately killed by cops. You do know what disproportionately means right? It means since 73% of the population is white then 73% of the police killings should be white and only 13% should be African Americans. That's not the case as your graph shows.
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They commit more violent crime...
Play more stupid games, win more bullets.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
You're being quite selective in how you break down the "disproportionate" nature of this. If you were trying to be intellectually honest, you would break it down by percentage of each race killed per interaction with police. I think you would be surprised. And your jaw would probably drop to the floor when you found out how many of the killings of blacks were completed by black law enforcement officers.
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Break out those fictitious stats. Surprise me, Sam.

You want to help him out there @tennvols77 ?
 
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Mick said:
That graph you used: It's true more white people are killed by cops than African Americans but that's not the argument or issue. The issue is African Americans are disproportionately killed by cops. You do know what disproportionately means right? It means since 73% of the population is white then 73% of the police killings should be white and only 13% should be African Americans. That's not the case as your graph shows.
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I didn't just use a chart and the data is an aggregate compiled from several sources. You seem to be discussing in good faith and I'll try to keep the points simple. The data I compiled only looks at arrest (or attempted arrest) encounters with police by ethnic demographics.

Out of 8.1 million arrests made, blacks comprised 2.2 million of those arrests. The empirical data shows blacks are more likely than whites to survive an arrest encounter by the slimmest of margins. Like a .001 or .0001 difference. Do you realize how impossibly slim that tiny percentage is?

If you want to posit police target blacks for arrest(which I think the arrest data hardly supports), then the death ratio's would completely rebuke any notion of systematic homicidal intent.

Finally there's the issue of a higher% of black officers involved in shootings(last link in the quote) than white officers. Another empirical data point that debunks any notion of systematic white on black racial killings by police officers.

I think honestly looking at those identical ratios contrasted to literal millions of encounters, and it becomes completely dishonest to blame police and allege racism over the differences in population percentages as a whole. That's most peoples principal issue with critical theory.

Edit: That isn't my work. I originally came across that on reddit. I have checked the sources and crunched the numbers for accuracy.
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
I didn't just use a chart and the data is an aggregate compiled from several sources. You seem to be discussing in good faith and I'll try to keep the points simple. The data I compiled only looks at arrest (or attempted arrest) encounters with police by ethnic demographics.

Out of 8.1 million arrests made, blacks comprised 2.2 million of those arrests. The empirical data shows blacks are more likely than whites to survive an arrest encounter by the slimmest of margins. Like a .001 or .0001 difference. Do you realize how impossibly slim that tiny percentage is?

If you want to posit police target blacks for arrest(which I think the arrest data hardly supports), then the death ratio's would completely rebuke any notion of systematic homicidal intent.

Finally there's the issue of a higher% of black officers involved in shootings(last link in the quote) than white officers. Another empirical data point that debunks any notion of systematic white on black racial killings by police officers.

I think honestly looking at those identical ratios contrasted to literal millions of encounters, and it becomes completely dishonest to blame police and allege racism over the differences in population percentages as a whole. That's most peoples principal issue with critical theory.

Edit: That isn't my work. I originally came across that on reddit. I have checked the sources and crunched the numbers for accuracy.
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Someone on reddit is trying too hard. Out of 8.1 million arrests made, blacks comprised 2.2 million of them. That in itself refutes you next paragraph, if you want to post police target blacks for arrest (which you wrongly think the data hardly supports). Then you to try to infer homicidal intent from those numbers.
 
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Mick said:
Someone on reddit is trying too hard. Out of 8.1 million arrests made, blacks comprised 2.2 million of them. That in itself refutes you next paragraph, if you want to post police target blacks for arrest (which you wrongly think the data hardly supports). Then you to try to infer homicidal intent from those numbers.
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Are you still using 73% to 13% of the population disparity? How does that refute my next paragraph?
 
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Mick said:
Someone on reddit is trying too hard. Out of 8.1 million arrests made, blacks comprised 2.2 million of them. That in itself refutes you next paragraph, if you want to post police target blacks for arrest (which you wrongly think the data hardly supports). Then you to try to infer homicidal intent from those numbers.
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I don't think he means "targeted for arrest" the way you do. He's not saying "targeted for arrest" due to their skin color. He's saying targeted for arrest as in they show up to a scene to arrest someone who has allegedly committed an illegal act.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
It’s time for the citizens of these cities to take their cities back by force. The police are no longer aloud to do their jobs so it’s time for the people to rise up and clear away the trash.
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It's coming if order is not restored. It's a given. They are literally allowing crimes to take place on and off camera.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
https://www.nber.org/papers/w22399.pdf

https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/injuryprev/23/1/27.full.pdf

Police Killings of Blacks: Here Is What the Data Say


I'll let black Ivy League Economists and statisticians present their data to you.
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SamRebel35 said:
I don't think he means "targeted for arrest" the way you do. He's not saying "targeted for arrest" due to their skin color. He's saying targeted for arrest as in they show up to a scene to arrest someone who has allegedly committed an illegal act.
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He knows.

Your last link, NY Times, does a good job pointing out the fallacy.

We're both doing the exact same thing by using empirical & left leaning sources to point out the fallacies of BLM's racial divisiveness excasperating cultural problems.
 
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Mick said:
That graph you used: It's true more white people are killed by cops than African Americans but that's not the argument or issue. The issue is African Americans are disproportionately killed by cops. You do know what disproportionately means right? It means since 73% of the population is white then 73% of the police killings should be white and only 13% should be African Americans. That's not the case as your graph shows.
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Why would the police shootings break down by racial makeup of the country when blacks commit a significant larger portion of violent crime, and have a much higher rate of police interaction? It wouldn't.

When you correct for crime rate demographics, blacks are less likely to be shot by police on a per incident basis. It has been studied over and over and over.
 
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