2020 Presidential Race

[jaybird_1981]

How about 99.9%

You speak too often in absolutes. I guess it is no wonder you don't believe in personal accountability.

 

[k-town_king]

You speak too often in absolutes. I guess it is no wonder you don't believe in personal accountability.

You can't even discuss the symptoms until the actual causes are fixed. So yes there is personal responsibility but if you are talking about demographic wide phenomena like the wealth gap then yes 100% due to the issues I raised.

 

[LouderVol]

Harris would not be my first choice or second choice to run the country. Some of her comments and positions while campaigning were problematic.

Personally, I think actual likelihood that Biden croaks or abdicates by 2025 is too remote, IMO, to base my vote on. Also, he ruled out most of my choices a while ago so I wasn’t expecting to love the pick.

Where do you think those chances are? And what level would it take for it to change your vote?

Just for me edification I looked up the death rates. Trump is in 4% dead per year category, Biden will be in the 6%. Granted both would have access to the best health care available to help those odds. But the stress has to hurt.

Death rate by age and sex in the U.S. 2017 | Statista

 

[Rickyvol77]

Lol. Like you would know. They don't wan't your double wide around either in that case.

Also low income housing does not mean projects. If you knew anything about anything you would know that is not what they mean. lmao.



I knew there was good reason I never liked Kamala the Cop.

i thought you hated her because her family actually owned slaves? either way you are going to vote for her so..... you are a hypocrite all the way around!

 

[0nelilreb]

Lol. Like you would know. They don't wan't your double wide around either in that case.

Also low income housing does not mean projects. If you knew anything about anything you would know that is not what they mean. lmao.



I knew there was good reason I never liked Kamala the Cop.

Dude you really are ignorant . I live in one house in Norfolk ( I know exactly what low income apartments are ) I own two other houses in Tennessee that I rent one has 5 acres one has 37 acres . Keep telling me what I don’t know . Lol .. Now ask them and stop being a puss about it .

 

[jaybird_1981]

You can't even discuss the symptoms until the actual causes are fixed. So yes there is personal responsibility but if you are talking about demographic wide phenomena like the wealth gap then yes 100% due to the issues I raised.

And until an individual can look at themselves and admit that most of their problems are of their own doing nothing else will matter.

 

[tennvols77]

And until an individual can look at themselves and admit that most of their problems are of their own doing nothing else will matter.

Yep, as someone who spent over a million of my own money, and spent over 10,000 hours to try and do my part, yep, basic problem is the individual being the obstacle to themselves and in spite of themselves. Period. Not a generalization, saw it first hand, the majority of people regardless of race, color, creed have no one to blame but......themselves.

 

[Electric Orange]

 

[headhunter15]

What a tool he is.

 

[tennvols77]

He's the normal political party whore......dude is a dolt.

 

[KB5252]

All?

It's my contention that many of these well meaning policies are the cause of African American dependence on the government and perpetuated their problems. It's hardly an issue for African Americans alone though.

Instead of keeping themselves concentrated in the cities they should be looking to the suburbs and rural areas to escape the cycle of dependence and better futures.

 

[LouderVol]

You can't even discuss the symptoms until the actual causes are fixed. So yes there is personal responsibility but if you are talking about demographic wide phenomena like the wealth gap then yes 100% due to the issues I raised.

Except the wealth gap isnt indicative of every case. It's an average, there is going to be some percentage where the wealth gap is flipped.

And even in the cases of systemic racism there is nothing that predetermines what will happen in an individual life. If that was the case there would never be success stories.

Really you are just railing against the law of averages. Unless you honestly believe if you replaced black urban poor with white urban poor you would get a significant different outcome.

 

[hog88]

Because of numbers. Poverty is much higher in communities of poc. Also most poor urban American citizens are black. So statistically you would equate that.

That is all due to past government and institutional policies and the legacy of slavery. Now Trump wants to erase the new programs and policies that try to fight past injustice.


It is though. This tweet says it all.

Well brooklyn dad is correct.

 

[hog88]

Lol. Like you would know. They don't wan't your double wide around either in that case.

Also low income housing does not mean projects. If you knew anything about anything you would know that is not what they mean. lmao.



I knew there was good reason I never liked Kamala the Cop.

Agreed low income housing includes trailer parks and I don't want them around me either.

And believe me I know what low income housing means. My wife has been in the multifamily business for over 20 years with section 8 and tax credit properties in her portfolio so what do you need to know about them?

 

[LouderVol]

It's my contention that many of these well meaning policies are the cause of African American dependence on the government and perpetuated their problems. It's hardly an issue for African Americans alone though.

Instead of keeping themselves concentrated in the cities they should be looking to the suburbs and rural areas to escape the cycle of dependence and better futures.

Welfare as functions in this country is designed to keep people on it. Once they are truly dependent chances of getting off are small.

 

[0nelilreb]

Welfare as functions in this country is designed to keep people on it. Once they are truly dependent chances of getting off are small.

LBJ actually told us all that .. in so many words .

 

[LouderVol]

LBJ actually told us all that .. in so many words .

It's like any number of sayings I grew up with.

"No meal tastes better than one you prepped yourself".

If you arent responsible for caring for yourself you wont. You generally dont better yourself and you spend your time waiting for the next handout. If you have to care for yourself you are going to care a lot more, and you are actively going to look for ways to better yourself. Which generally means more money and more independence.

It's always telling to see what people are actually out for.

 

[RavinDave]

I dont like Harris, but i am glad he picked her over Susan Rice or the others, which are heavily tilted left wing

I was having a hard time figuring out which one I would like less as the first female POTUS. At least now there’s no need to ponder that question any more.

 

[hUTch2002]

I love it. Takes so much of the BS argument away from the Trumpers that ALL Dems are weak on crime. No one can accuse Biden or especially Harris of that.

As long as the cities are still rioting Trump will use it and maybe if they aren’t rioting anymore. He will force Biden to either support it or not. Biden will try to walk the line between supporting and not supporting but it’s a super thin line. To say Biden and Harris won’t be accused of being soft on crime likely isn’t accurate. They will defend with the same things BB mentioned and Trump will hammer home how Dems support the rioting in cities and defunding the police. We will find out if people buy into the accusation or not. I bet Biden and Harris will try to pull a Warren and keep dancing around very direct questions.

 

[RockyTop85]

Where do you think those chances are? And what level would it take for it to change your vote?

Just for me edification I looked up the death rates. Trump is in 4% dead per year category, Biden will be in the 6%. Granted both would have access to the best health care available to help those odds. But the stress has to hurt.

Death rate by age and sex in the U.S. 2017 | Statista

Idk; there are two variables, right? How crazy is the VP and how frail is the candidate.

I voted for McCain despite Palin, and I think it’s apparent, given how much I dislike Trump, how much I would have disliked Palin as his harbinger. McCain wasn’t super old or frail but he wasn’t 40, either. Biden is certainly older. Significantly older.

But I don’t see evidence of physical or mental decline from Biden. He seems physically active and mobile. I watch most of his longer speeches and a lot of times if I see one of those 20 second clips of him being demented, I’ll look up the full video. He’s not a good speaker but my grandmother had dementia for years before she passed and he doesn’t share any similar symptoms.

So, if Biden had picked Palin as his VP, it might have given me pause. But Harris, while I was relieved when she dropped out of the primary, just isn’t to that level of crazy, even though I adamantly disagree with much of her politics.

 

[hUTch2002]

What does the word withdraw mean to you? As used it means eliminate all funding. Not cut.

It depends on what the definition of “is” is. Now that I see that in a sentence I wonder if Bill actually started ISIS.

 

[hog88]

It's like any number of sayings I grew up with.

"No meal tastes better than one you prepped yourself".

If you arent responsible for caring for yourself you wont. You generally dont better yourself and you spend your time waiting for the next handout. If you have to care for yourself you are going to care a lot more, and you are actively going to look for ways to better yourself. Which generally means more money and more independence.

It's always telling to see what people are actually out for.

"Nobody is going to wipe your ass for you".

 

[0nelilreb]

It's like any number of sayings I grew up with.

"No meal tastes better than one you prepped yourself".

If you arent responsible for caring for yourself you wont. You generally dont better yourself and you spend your time waiting for the next handout. If you have to care for yourself you are going to care a lot more, and you are actively going to look for ways to better yourself. Which generally means more money and more independence.

It's always telling to see what people are actually out for.

I liken it to borrowing my dads pickup with the big block in it as a teenager, It would smoke the tires until I let off the gas . Guess how many times I turned the tires over on the first Truck I bought with my own money ? Yup you guessed it , not once . Those damn things were expensive .

 

[hog88]

I liken it to borrowing my dads pickup with the big block in it as a teenager, It would smoke the tires until I let off the gas . Guess how many times I turned the tires over on the first Truck I bought with my own money ? Yup you guessed it , not once . Those damn things were expensive .

When I used to have a bike I always thought the guys in burnout competitions must have money to burn.

 

[hUTch2002]

Your right it’s not. You seem to insist the dictionary use extra words. Not something they do. If it meant, what you incorrectly think it does, the word reduce would be used.

Well the MSM and Dems are the ones who tied “defund” to “reduce” with how they used it. That happened when the Reps jumped all over the fact that defund the police meant to dismantle the police and the Dems and MSM are the ones that cried “no, no, no...when we say defund the police we mean to reduce funding or redirect funding.” The name of the movement remains so blame the MSM and Dems for that correlation.