2020 Presidential Race

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Orangeburst said:
I think it is very naive to believe that foreign nations NEVER have a preference. And there is nothing you can do to stop propaganda narrative.
As discussed the NYT and other influential media has been receiving millions from China and you guys do not bat an eye.
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Not that I want to spend all day on here, but I have a hard time imagining what you describe, as taking money from China, is as nefarious as you imply. Is this advertising or something, or secret bank deposits... what?
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Are you equally as upset about China helping Biden?
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Where do you see that?


CHINA – We assess that China prefers that President Trump – whom Beijing sees as unpredictable – does not win reelection. China has been expanding its influence efforts ahead of November 2020 to shape the policy environment in the United States, pressure political figures it views as opposed to China’s interests, and deflect and counter criticism of China. Although China will continue to weigh the risks and benefits of aggressive action, its public rhetoric over the past few months has grown increasingly critical of the current Administration’s COVID-19 response, closure of China’s Houston Consulate, and actions on other issues. For example, it has harshly criticized the Administration’s statements and actions on Hong Kong, TikTok, the legal status of the South China Sea, and China’s efforts to dominate the 5G market. Beijing recognizes that all of these efforts might affect the presidential race.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Not that I want to spend all day on here, but I have a hard time imagining what you describe, as taking money from China, is as nefarious as you imply. Is this advertising or something, or secret bank deposits... what?
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Ask them. They certainly receive some quid pro quo and not negative press And has been going on for decades starting with Bill Clinton

Chinese Illegally Donated to Bill Clinton Reelection Campaign. Media Downplayed. | National Review

Has China Compromised Every Major Mainstream Media Entity?

China Flouts Fed Law to Publish Propaganda in NY Times, WaPo
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Are you equally as upset about China helping Biden?
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Where in the report did it say China was helping Biden??? It doesn’t. It says what we have known for 2 years. It states that they believe Trump is unstable and chaotic and they do not prefer that he be re-elected.
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carlos86 said:
Where in the report did it say China was helping Biden??? It doesn’t. It says what we have known for 2 years. It states that they believe Trump is unstable and chaotic and they do not prefer that he be re-elected.
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"China has been expanding its influence efforts ahead of November 2020 to shape the policy environment in the United States, pressure political figures it views as opposed to China's interests, and deflect and counter criticism of China."

Didn't Biden just say he would stop the tariffs? quite the coincidence.

Also here is a link to CNN. watch the video.
www.cnn.com/2020/08/07/politics/2020-election-russia-china-iran/index.html
 
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Sandman 423 said:
"China has been expanding its influence efforts ahead of November 2020 to shape the policy environment in the United States, pressure political figures it views as opposed to China's interests, and deflect and counter criticism of China."

Didn't Biden just say he would stop the tariffs? quite the coincidence.

Also here is a link to CNN. watch the video.
www.cnn.com/2020/08/07/politics/2020-election-russia-china-iran/index.html
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Almost anyone would stop the tariffs because it was a stupid idea.
 
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luthervol said:
Everyone knows Trump scores much worse than Biden on the racist continuum. It's not even close.
Biden picking an AA running mate will make that difference even more glaring.
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So if Trump were to dump Pence and elevate Ben Carson to VP would that close the gap?

You're also insinuating that black people are going to just ignore the speakings of the president and only vote for him because he has a black running mate. That speaks volumes for how much you think of the black community and their ability (in your thoughts their inability) to make educated decisions.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Almost anyone would stop the tariffs because it was a stupid idea.
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The tariffs in my mind were one thing I wished that a president could get done since the early 2000's when manufacturing was fleeing the US. We have to get tougher on countries like China who are using slave labor and taking advantage of horrible trade agreements to undercut American manufacturing. On the flip side of the coin American manufacturers have to bend a little bit as well and not get greedy when trying to take advantage of the new demand in US products.

I said it at the time when the Chinese steel tariffs hit: Someone out there with enough capital could absolutely seize on this and make a killing. All you had to do was undercut the new prices of goods coming out of China and you would have made an absolute killing. Instead American steel companies fired back up and charged an arm and a leg thinking the demand would automatically come to them and instead it turned people away.

Tariffs are a great idea when trying to get back at countries that are bending you over like China has been but American manufacturing was once again it's own worst enemy.
 
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luthervol said:
Everyone knows Trump scores much worse than Biden on the racist continuum. It's not even close.
Biden picking an AA running mate will make that difference even more glaring.
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I don't know what's taking him so long. They all think the same, it should be really easy for him.
 
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Smokey'sHandler said:
So if Trump were to dump Pence and elevate Ben Carson to VP would that close the gap?

You're also insinuating that black people are going to just ignore the speakings of the president and only vote for him because he has a black running mate. That speaks volumes for how much you think of the black community and their ability (in your thoughts their inability) to make educated decisions.
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Give it a rest.
If Trump dropped Pence and elevated Carson to VP, of course it would close the gap; but Trump does not believe that to be in his self interest for obvious reasons.
I think TN fans would respond positively to having a TN fan on the ticket.
I think Ohioans would respond positively to having someone from Ohio on the ticket.
I think Hispanics would respond positively to having a Hispanic on the ticket.
I think a paraplegic would respond positively to having a paraplegic on the ticket.
I think a conservative Christian would respond positively to having a conservative Christian on the ticket.
I guess that speaks volumes about how much I think of those groups and their ability to make educated decisions.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Ask them. They certainly receive some quid pro quo and not negative press And has been going on for decades starting with Bill Clinton

Chinese Illegally Donated to Bill Clinton Reelection Campaign. Media Downplayed. | National Review

Has China Compromised Every Major Mainstream Media Entity?

China Flouts Fed Law to Publish Propaganda in NY Times, WaPo
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OK first of all, Bill Clinton, really?

Secondly, China doesn't disclose how much money they are spending to change opinions on Tibet? Oh, the depths of complicity..

"Has China compromised every mainstream media entity?" Nice headline, which presents it's case by offering the evidence of a shareholder in a newspaper doing business in China.

Weak, just really weak.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
"China has been expanding its influence efforts ahead of November 2020 to shape the policy environment in the United States, pressure political figures it views as opposed to China's interests, and deflect and counter criticism of China."

Didn't Biden just say he would stop the tariffs? quite the coincidence.

Also here is a link to CNN. watch the video.
www.cnn.com/2020/08/07/politics/2020-election-russia-china-iran/index.html
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This isn’t an active measure. This is normal diplomacy. There is a difference between that and Russian intelligence using 2 million social media accounts to shape the opinions of voters.
 
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Kanye submitted 3,128 signatures to the state of Illinois. 1,928 were ruled invalid. He’s off the ballot because most of his signatures were fake.
 
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