2020 Presidential Race

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DC_Vol said:
I’m glad you asked, Luth. If I had to guess, I’d rank your list as follows (eliminating any choices I believe not to be pertinent):

1 - Trump is not a conservative and needed a strong conservative on the ticket
5 -solidify the religious right
7 - help solidify support in the Midwest

I don’t think color or cleanliness were high on Trump’s list. JMO.
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I'm glad you're glad D.
So he was pandering to the conservative vote, the ultra religious vote, and the Midwest vote?
.....and it takes an old white man to fill those needs.
 
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Put this in the hypocrite file: Per Mashable.com

During a campaign event in Ohio on Thursday, the president mispronounced Thailand as "Thigh-land".
"Shifting production to Thighland," Trump said during the speech, before correcting himself. "Thailand and Vietnam, two places that ... I like their leaders very much."

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Crickets from the right... if Biden said that? It's further proof of his dementia.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Put this in the hypocrite file: Per Mashable.com

During a campaign event in Ohio on Thursday, the president mispronounced Thailand as "Thigh-land".
"Shifting production to Thighland," Trump said during the speech, before correcting himself. "Thailand and Vietnam, two places that ... I like their leaders very much."

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Crickets from the right... if Biden said that? It's further proof of his dementia.
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Between this and Yo-Semite I count them as Freudian slips that show what he's really all about.
 
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luthervol said:
I'm glad you're glad D.
So he was pandering to the conservative vote, the ultra religious vote, and the Midwest vote?
.....and it takes an old white man to feel those needs.
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Yes and yes to the first and second. I wouldn’t define the third as pandering.

As to your conclusion, I think it’s a little out there. Not surprising...you strike me as a guy who normally process things like this through the lens of race. I do not.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I've defended discriminatory behavior, in some cases. I've never defended racist behavior. Alas, not all discriminatory behavior, is racist.
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You've been walked thru this by multiple people. We all know discrimination based on some factor other than skin color is not racism.

Discrimination based on skin color is racism. You defend racism BB.
 
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allvol123 said:
You've been walked thru this by multiple people. We all know discrimination based on some factor other than skin color is not racism.

Discrimination based on skin color is racism. You defend racism BB.
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Not necessarily. Racial discrimination for the purpose of advancing cultural diversity within a workforce, is not racism. Such a practice does not necessarily contain the belief that one race is either inferior to, or superior to another race. There is no hostility or animosity toward one race being conveyed. There is no elitism. There is only the belief that there should be equitable participation among the races in the workforce. You don't have to be in accord with that belief. It's okay to think that such a practice is wrong and the most qualified people should always be hired for any job, regardless of race... but that practice is not an example of racism.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Not necessarily. Racial discrimination for the purpose of advancing cultural diversity within a workforce, is not racism. Such a practice does not necessarily contain the belief that one race is either inferior to, or superior to another race. There is no hostility or animosity toward one race being conveyed. There is no elitism. There is only the belief that there should be equitable participation among the races in the workforce. You don't have to be in accord with that belief. It's okay to think that such a practice is wrong and the most qualified people should always be hired for any job, regardless of race... but that practice is not an example of racism.
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It most certainly is.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Yes and yes to the first and second. I wouldn’t define the third as pandering.

As to your conclusion, I think it’s a little out there. Not surprising...you strike me as a guy who normally process things like this through the lens of race. I do not.
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That's odd. I thought that's exactly what you were doing. Maybe I have you confused with someone else in this thread, I haven't been paying very close attention.

Personally, I'm not processing the VP issue through the lens of race in the least.
I view Biden picking an African-American woman exactly as I saw Trump picking a conservative mid-western white-male.
 
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luthervol said:
That's odd. I thought that's exactly what you were doing. Maybe I have you confused with someone else in this thread, I haven't been paying very close attention.

Personally, I'm not processing the VP issue through the lens of race in the least.
I view Biden picking an African-American woman exactly as I saw Trump picking a conservative mid-western white-male.
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No, Luth. I think you got a Trump / Pence chubby and jumped the gun on your response.

My original post on the subject used mostly Biden’s own words in a form of satire. I wasn’t interpreting or projecting.
 
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allvol123 said:
If person from race A is the best candidate for a position and they are passed over for a person of race B due to the race of person from race B, then person from race A is a victim of racism.

It is as elementary as 2+2=4.
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Bro, it’s not racism if it’s endorsed by bureaucrats.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Racism: The belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to another.
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Deciding to hire someone is the result of deciding they are superior to the other applicants in one or multiple ways, correct? And deciding someone is superior based on their race is called _______. Feel free to use any available definitions.
 
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allvol123 said:
If person from race A is the best candidate for a position and they are passed over for a person of race B due to the race of person from race B, then person from race A is a victim of racism.

It is as elementary as 2+2=4.
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I'm going to say this one more time, and then I'm done with it. Motive matters. What you are describing is racial discrimination, but not all forms of racial discrimination are examples of racism. What you have described is only racism, if the motive behind selecting person from race B is either that person B is from a superior race, or that person A is from an inferior race. If person from race B was selected as a means of promoting cultural diversity and an equitable work environment, then that does not meet the definition of racism. You don't have to like such a practice, and many people don't, but it's not racism.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm going to say this one more time, and then I'm done with it. Motive matters. What you are describing is racial discrimination, but not all forms of racial discrimination are examples of racism. What you have described is only racism, if the motive behind selecting person from race B is either that person B is from a superior race, or that person A is from an inferior race. If person from race B was selected as a means of promoting cultural diversity and an equitable work environment, then that does not meet the definition of racism. You don't have to like such a practice, and many people don't, but it's not racism.
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The reason rational people dont like it is because rational people dont like racism.
 
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