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OldVolMan said:
My daughter has Lupus and has taken Hydroxychloroquine for long time. She goes to very well respected Dr. in St. Louis that specializes in Immune Deficiency Diseases, at her last visit in May the Dr. said because of Covid19 she was increasing her dose.
She basically saved my daughters life ten years ago when two other Drs had not helped much. I really thought I was right before losing her at that time.
That is good enough for me, I don't get all the arguing over it.
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Dosing may be key, as well as what negative effects is has specifically with COVID at different levels of severity.

I would argue that if dosing is similar to those with Lupus and taken as a preventative, there isn't much harm, though the evidence would still be anecdotal and practically a placebo.
 
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BigOrangeD said:
Oh wow. You're just so smart aren't you. I know the difference as well. It happens dumbo. Don't you have an antifa rally or riot to attend?
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That statement alone makes it impossible to have any real adult debate with you. You're immature and uninformed....I support neither the things you stated.....grow up
 
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Stew Cook said:
Dosing may be key, as well as what negative effects is has specifically with COVID at different levels of severity.

I would argue that if dosing is similar to those with Lupus and taken as a preventative, there isn't much harm, though the evidence would still be anecdotal and practically a placebo.
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It's a light does that is recommended so it would not be an issue. Many of the so called studies that deny it's effects, way overdosed and treated patients who were way too far along with the disease. Key is to treat early.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I have already been living the way I feel:

In the past month or more:

* went to myrtle beach
* been to the public pool
* went to 3-4 outlet malls
* went to the mall 2-3 times
* been to several restaurants including pizza buffet
* wear masks when they require them and choose not too when they do not
* went to several of my sons baseball games
* he also tried out and made a fall travel baseball team
* signed my kids up to having school in school and am sending my son to a camping camp with the church

When it first started and I was more worried about it:

* I didn’t go around anyone period
* had pizza delivered and take out only
* I never stopped working but was very safe at my job

Life should be about personal choices in freedom.... the govt should give us the info so we can make those decisions for ourselves
Right when this first started and I was more
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Well, it sounds like your attempt to cloak yourself in virtue was not only disingenuous but nonsensical. Your freedom of choice appears to be as unencumbered as mine.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
That statement alone makes it impossible to have any real adult debate with you. You're immature and uninformed....I support neither the things you stated.....grow up
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Man, who are you kidding about being an adult? You have made some of the stupidest and most juvenile posts on this board. Go get your bat and bandanna and get to the riot.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Some are pushing it and using it believing they know better than the EU studies and our own clinical trials. If they are using the drug at different doses and in combination with other drugs, their observations are still anecdotal, though not necessarily untrue.

These doctors are not necessarily quacks, although some of the "touted" experts have some dubious beliefs outside accepted medical consensus of COVID treatments, among other conditions.
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At what point are these Drs stripped of their medical practice and charged for criminal acts?
 
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BigOrangeD said:
It's a light does that is recommended so it would not be an issue. Many of the so called studies that deny it's effects, way overdosed and treated patients who were way too far along with the disease. Key is to treat early.
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I see a potential problem with the logic of treating asymptomatic people and suggesting it saved their lives, and these patients appear to be included as evidence. How do those differ from those taking zinc alone, vs other combinations with a placebo. This illustrates the need for official studies and conclusive data.
 
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Stew Cook said:
I see a potential problem with the logic of treating asymptomatic people and suggesting it saved their lives, and these patients appear to be included as evidence. How do those differ from those taking zinc alone, vs other combinations with a placebo. This illustrates the need for official studies and conclusive data.
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No, I agree. If asymptomatic, no need for treatment. Treat early when symptoms start. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Dosing may be key, as well as what negative effects is has specifically with COVID at different levels of severity.

I would argue that if dosing is similar to those with Lupus and taken as a preventative, there isn't much harm, though the evidence would still be anecdotal and practically a placebo.
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I think the key to making this effective vs C19 is to use it as a cocktail along with a Z pack and Zinc. I'm not aware of any study that showed a problem with that sort of protocol and many doctors have vouched for its effectiveness. This is also the way the President took it
 
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BigOrangeD said:
You have no facts just liberal opinions that are inaccurate.
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You keep using that word liberal pretty loosely...you have no idea WTF you're talking about......not just liberals dislike Trump. It's a fact that plenty of conservatives are disgusted by him too...think that's an opinion then check with all the conservative military leaders who have spoken out against him. You just can't take the fact the guy is a joke. Has absolutely nothing to do with ideology. Got it dumbass!

As far as covid-19 goes, he's shown ZERO leadership and sheep like you keep proudly supporting his dumbass
 
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Sea Ray said:
I think the key to making this effective vs C19 is to use it as a cocktail along with a Z pack and Zinc. I'm not aware of any study that showed that showed a problem with that sort of protocol and many doctors have vouched for its effectiveness. This is also the way the President took it
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I would agree that if it does no harm, then by definition the risk is minimal. Although especially when taken in combinations, it would be more difficult to prove as being more than a placebo.

Not arguing against using it at proven safe levels, especially if the supply is there.
 
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Stew Cook said:
When they administer doses of no proven therapeutic value and deaths or organ damage etc. increase well above the COVID mortality rates.
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The dose required according to the doctors that have had huge success is so low that it would not cause any issue at all. There could always be an exception as with any treatment but very low statically. The real problem is the licensing boards and FDA.
 
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OldVolMan said:
My daughter has Lupus and has taken Hydroxychloroquine for long time. She goes to very well respected Dr. in St. Louis that specializes in Immune Deficiency Diseases, at her last visit in May the Dr. said because of Covid19 she was increasing her dose.
She basically saved my daughters life ten years ago when two other Drs had not helped much. I really thought I was right before losing her at that time.
That is good enough for me, I don't get all the arguing over it.
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That is the thing for me. Let doctors do their job and leave the politics out of it. I don't care what drug they give if it works.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
You keep using that word liberal pretty loosely...you have no idea WTF you're talking about......not just liberals dislike Trump. It's a fact that plenty of conservatives are disgusted by him too...think that's an opinion then check with all the conservative military leaders who have spoken out against him. You just can't take the fact the guy is a joke. Has absolutely nothing to do with ideology. Got it dumbass!
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They're not conservative. They are RINOs and being exposed. You're a real peace of work and just not that bright. Go play golf or get to your rally. Don't forget your bat and molotov cocktails.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
You keep using that word liberal pretty loosely...you have no idea WTF you're talking about......not just liberals dislike Trump. It's a fact that plenty of conservatives are disgusted by him too...think that's an opinion then check with all the conservative military leaders who have spoken out against him. You just can't take the fact the guy is a joke. Has absolutely nothing to do with ideology. Got it dumbass!

As far as covid-19 goes, he's shown ZERO leadership and sheep like you keep proudly supporting his dumbass
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Right. Close off boarders to China while your Nancy calls him a racist. Total disgrace your guys are.
 
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