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MontyPython said:
So, Trumpsters, help me understand...

Trump retweets (multiple times) a video that says we shouldn't wear masks.

Yet, he told us previously that wearing masks is "patriotic".

Please reconcile the obvious contradiction.

Thank you and have a fantastic day!
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It’s really not that hard. Was it a video that only said masks aren’t required or was it a video with more than just one thing said? After you answer that, what was the main point of the video? It’s about HCQ working, which Trump has said previously. Trump has also previously said to wear masks so I’m going out on a limb here in saying that Trump agrees with the main theme of the video but that doesn’t automatically mean he agrees with every word said in the video. I’m just shocked you couldn’t reach that conclusion on your own. I suppose that’s why you asked for help though so I guess I have you credit for recognizing you needed help.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Why are doctors pushing it if it does nothing but harm people?
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Some are pushing it and using it believing they know better than the EU studies and our own clinical trials. If they are using the drug at different doses and in combination with other drugs, their observations are still anecdotal, though not necessarily untrue.

These doctors are not necessarily quacks, although some of the "touted" experts have some dubious beliefs outside accepted medical consensus of COVID treatments, among other conditions.
 
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Fun coupon VOL said:
That is fine, but attack what she is saying not him for retweeting the video.

Prove that she has not treated 350 patients with her cocktail and is not wearing a mask when she sees Covid-19 positive patients.

Until twitter does that, it looks like they are suppressing a doctors voice who is working on the front line who disagrees with twitter’s stance. It looks extremely hypocritical.

I’m sure the medical boards will be all over this.
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I just assumed this was another example of racism but CNN didn’t say it so I guess not.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Some are pushing it and using it believing they know better than the EU studies and our own clinical trials. If they are using the drug at different doses and in combination with other drugs, their observations are still anecdotal, though not necessarily untrue.

These doctors are not necessarily quacks, although some of the "touted" experts have some dubious beliefs outside accepted medical consensus of COVID treatments, among other conditions.
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Quick, we dont have any answers! Stop trying!
 
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Stew Cook said:
Only speculating as to Twitter response being related to the insistence that wearing a mask isn't helpful, which runs counter to public health recommendations.

So, if Twitter believes the risk, due to the high-profile status of Don Jr., worth taking action, per their TOS, it is their prerogative.
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Again, it's not about their prerogative. It's their prerogative to take action if their reason is that they're a liberal outfit and they're Trump haters, which is another distinct possibility
 
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Sea Ray said:
Again, it's not about their prerogative. It's their prerogative to take action if their reason is that they're a liberal outfit and they're Trump haters, which is another distinct possibility
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Still their prerogative if that, in fact, were the case.
 
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volbeast33 said:
You seem to be confused between freedom of choice and the freedom to not agree with another’s decision.... Both can happen at the same time.
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Why do you keep saying I’m confused? I’m not.

You said we should pursue herd immunity.

That is not advocating for or against people having a choice.

That is advocating for a decision.

I am disagreeing with your advocacy for that specific decision.

The freedom of choice thing is complete ********. You‘re just trying to cloak yourself in virtue by pivoting to away from a terrible argument.
The piglet did the same thing on a longer timeline.
It’s a disingenuous pivot, at best, because both of you have made clear that you hold the view that I’m disagreeing with.

Just because you attempt to shut down disagreement with your dumbass argument about herd immunity by retreating to first principles, doesn’t mean I have to follow.

Somebody offering a lecture on the distinction between “freedom of choice” and “disagreeing with an individual’s decisions” ought to understand that.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
It’s not just this 1 doctor that knows hydroxychlorquine works. It’s many.
The correct dosage and this drug is a game changer. I wonder why the effectiveness of this drug is being hidden. 🤔.

If you don’t look at the data then you are a science denier.
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When the NYT puts out an article backing away from the Dem stance on HCQ and blaming it on this one guy then you know they’ve realized their stance has been wrong this whole time.
 
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Stew Cook said:
You say harmless, clinical trials say the opposite. COVID is not Malaria.
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My daughter has Lupus and has taken Hydroxychloroquine for long time. She goes to very well respected Dr. in St. Louis that specializes in Immune Deficiency Diseases, at her last visit in May the Dr. said because of Covid19 she was increasing her dose.
She basically saved my daughters life ten years ago when two other Drs had not helped much. I really thought I was right before losing her at that time.
That is good enough for me, I don't get all the arguing over it.
 
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Medical opinions differ on HcQ. For any group, Twitter or otherwise to take a stand is not right and it hurts their credibility. YouTube had a similar example a few months ago when they announced that they'd take down anything that was not consistent with the WHO. That too hurt their credibility with me and I now know that Google is also a biased organization. WHO has a lot of "issues". If a group as powerful as Google is in the tank for them then I now no longer trust their searches either. I know that's being filtered too
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Why do you keep saying I’m confused? I’m not.

You said we should pursue herd immunity.

That is not advocating for or against people having a choice.

That is advocating for a decision.

I am disagreeing with your advocacy for that specific decision.

The freedom of choice thing is complete ********. You‘re just trying to cloak yourself in virtue by pivoting to away from a terrible argument.
The piglet did the same thing on a longer timeline.
It’s a disingenuous pivot, at best, because both of you have made clear that you hold the view that I’m disagreeing with.

Just because you attempt to shut down disagreement with your dumbass argument about herd immunity by retreating to first principles, doesn’t mean I have to follow.

They Somebody offering a lecture on the distinction between “freedom of choice” and “disagreeing with an individual’s decisions” ought to understand that.
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I have already been living the way I feel:

In the past month or more:

* went to myrtle beach
* been to the public pool
* went to 3-4 outlet malls
* went to the mall 2-3 times
* been to several restaurants including pizza buffet
* wear masks when they require them and choose not too when they do not
* went to several of my sons baseball games
* he also tried out and made a fall travel baseball team
* signed my kids up to having school in school and am sending my son to a camping camp with the church

When it first started and I was more worried about it:

* I didn’t go around anyone period
* had pizza delivered and take out only
* I never stopped working but was very safe at my job

Life should be about personal choices in freedom.... the govt should give us the info so we can make those decisions for ourselves
Right when this first started and I was more
 
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