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Regarding daily numbers on Covid, recall that test results being reported take a few days. For example today, Tennessee reported over 50,000 test results. Normally we’ve been reporting around 20-25,000 test results per day in recent days. Today was I think at least around 20,000 more test results that we have ever previously reported for a single day. The results today were 6.2% positive and the average to date has been around 8% positive.

Positive tests do not equal the number of actual identified cases. In Tennessee we have reported 110,435 positive test results but have only reported/identified 93,936 discreet individuals infected by the virus.

When comparing regions or countries the popularly accepted method appears to be to convert population numbers to per million. In such a comparison based on the latest available numbers, Tennessee is/has been testing more than the USA as a whole and twice as much as Italy. In deaths, one is more likely to die in Italy than in the USA and of the three, very significantly less likely to die in Tennessee.

Per the CDC about a month ago, they estimated the number of actual cases on average across the country have been/are about 10 times what is being reported. That estimate was 12 times for NY state. I’m not trying to argue one side or another but I do believe the reason the numbers in NY state have dropped so dramatically in recent days and weeks is they hit their Herd Immunity Threshold (HIT). The number of tests reported in NY today was about the same as the number of tests reported in Tennessee today and both states each reported 20% more test results today than the entire nation of Italy.

I continue to believe if the numbers are viewed with context they strongly suggest that Tennessee is rapidly approaching the HIT for the state and without a doubt, at least in my mind, the health care workers in the state of Tennessee are flat out kicking ass. jmo.

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UpstateVol613 said:
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One of several differences being, they were fighting for a cause (for one, to save lives). If we are stupid, and get the virus, and then die. Well, we were just stupid. If we get the virus, and then give it to someone who dies, well that is exactly opposite of what those brave men were doing.
 
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drvenner said:
I've been on the Vit D train for a while. Your posts did remind me to make sure I have enough.
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The Singapore study I referred to also included magnesium and B12, which I think both have roles in D's utilization. There are a stack of studies that show association between existing D levels and improved outcomes, but the awesome news in that particular study was that it looked at outcomes after administering the supplements in the hospital, when people are already sick enough to seek treatment. It's a small study (43 participants), but the results were very strongly biased towards the supplements...17% of DMB vs 61% of control needed supplemental oxygen...and is suggestive of causation rather than correlation.
 
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Devo182 said:
I've read some well thought out posts on TOSs arguing players may be safer playing than being back at home...especially if no other students were on campus. There would be less "going out" time and more of a "bubble"/cohort situation. They would also be constantly monitored and have the best medical attention 24/7.

Another argument is football players, typically having very busy, structured schedules during the season, would be bored and even more inclined to go out and spend time around others if back at home. Not to mention a total lack of scheduled testing or quick access to care.

Alontae also tweeted this earlier in the month:
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The best argument I have seen for having the season, but like I have said to others, it's not about you. In this case, I mean the players. It is not about the players. It is about everyone who shows up at the games. It's about medical staff. It's about anyone who is in the mix. Not everyone is as young and healthy as the players.
 
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i2amavol said:
The best argument I have seen for having the season, but like I have said to others, it's not about you. In this case, I mean the players. It is not about the players. It is about everyone who shows up at the games. It's about medical staff. It's about anyone who is in the mix. Not everyone is as young and healthy as the players.
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There will be people willing to step into those roles and I will definitely be going as a fan
 
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i2amavol said:
The best argument I have seen for having the season, but like I have said to others, it's not about you. In this case, I mean the players. It is not about the players. It is about everyone who shows up at the games. It's about medical staff. It's about anyone who is in the mix. Not everyone is as young and healthy as the players.
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True, so they shouldn’t go to the games. It will be safe for them to enjoy games in the future.
 
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drvenner said:
Still don't believe this
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It’s true.... they even came out and claimed it was a procedural error basically saying if you got of line and the guy behind you tested positive then they would think it was you..... that is even worse imo.... what type of procedural containment process are they using?
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Drink water/Gatorade/Propel constantly when its hot. I probably drink 6-7 water bottles, 3-4 Gatorades or Propels in 18 holes when it’s that hot. If you don’t need to pee during the round, then you are not drinking enough...
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I drank 2 gatorades and 5 waters yesterday. Cramped up. No pees.

Drank 2 gatorades and 4 beers today. No cramps. 3 pees. #BuiltDifferent
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Perhaps an interesting note with the Covid numbers is that there is a delay between the real time numbers and the numbers being reported publicly. For example, due to the volume of testing now in the state of Tennessee, test results are actually coming to the public 4 days after the tests were taken. It’s not just testing where the numbers are delayed. A range of reported metrics, including fatalities, are significantly delayed from the time of actual occurrence to the time of public reporting. By following the trends in what is reported when they are reported and understanding the delay in the reports it’s possible, assuming the trends hold, to approximate where we really are now by estimating what the numbers will be 3-4 days out.

Recent reporting suggests in Tennessee the numbers are moving in the direction most want to see but we won’t really know for sure until about 96 hours from now. While the reporting is actually comparatively good in our state relative to other states across the country it’s not like our reporting system is operating at the speed of light. In fact between the time a test is taken and the result is publicly reported light will have traveled approximately 64,379,059,200 miles or right about 900 round trip journeys between the planet Earth and the planet Mars in its current location. jmo.

All this to suggest that if current trends hold we may all be celebrating very soon the announcements by the powers that be our roadmap to kickoff for the 2020 football season. I expect fall camp to start perhaps as early as sometime between 7-10 days from today, almost certainly within the next 14 days. jmo.
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Light travels?
 
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jackcrevol said:
blech. Gatorade. most useless 200 calories on Earth. Coffee, beer, water
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Only drink Zero. So, you believe the CoVID scientists, but not the basic biochemistry of electrolytes?

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Smokeytom said:
Only drink Zero. So, you believe the CoVID scientists, but not the basic biochemistry of electrolytes?

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I'm a health nut man.

Nuts, clean protein, green leafy salads, yogurt, & fruit.

Been fanatic about exercise for 20 yrs. Despite the occasional locarb beer, got dem electrolytes.
 
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Orangeredblooded said:
So, while it might be good to take magnesium? It’s only for non-virus. I seriously want to know, what supplements to add to my daily besides D, C and zinc.
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I think it helps D in the immune function. Regardless, magnesium deficiency is very common, particularly as we age. It's used in a huge number of very important systems. I take it daily in several forms.
 
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