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#67,904
allvol123 said:
What is our trajectory? When are we passing UK, Spain, Italy, Belgium, France?
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The EU as a whole is a better comparison.. i.e. comparable population...

You don't think that our current infection rate is destined to eclipse the EU in deaths, in the very short term?
 
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#67,905
Stew Cook said:
The EU as a whole is a better comparison.. i.e. comparable population...

You don't think that our current infection rate is destined to eclipse the EU in deaths, in the very short term?
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I think the comparisons are very difficult to make. Take NY and NJ out and we look completely different.

What is their average age? What is the health of their aged versus ours? What percent live in nursing homes versus ours. On and on.

I see nothing that says we flopped in comparison to them.
 
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#67,907
Stew Cook said:
Sure, but a mask helps to some degree, ts a fact.

Persons claiming they are useless aren't being honest about it, wether they choose to use one or not. And that is not helpful.
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And those who claim they are what we need for an open country arent being honest either.

It's not an either or scenario.
 
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#67,908
allvol123 said:
I think the comparisons are very difficult to make. Take NY and NJ out and we look completely different.

What is their average age? What is the health of their aged versus ours? What percent live in nursing homes versus ours. On and on.

I see nothing that says we flopped in comparison to them.
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You can’t just take away states. Not how it works.
 
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#67,910
volfanhill said:
You can’t just take away states. Not how it works.
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I'm not taking them away, just making the statement. Is there a NY/NJ comparison in Europe in terms of density and size?

It is just absurd to think you can say X did better than Y and it is obvious Y did so much worse when no one has the same conditions.

What are the obesity rates in Europe versus the US? And 50 other relevant questions.
 
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#67,911
allvol123 said:
I think the comparisons are very difficult to make. Take NY and NJ out and we look completely different.

What is their average age? What is the health of their aged versus ours? What percent live in nursing homes versus ours. On and on.

I see nothing that says we flopped in comparison to them.
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I suppose it all comes back to the success of preventing the spread, which we have certainly failed in comparison. It seems that containment isn't a possibility now, and the results of the that failure to do so are all but certain.

Not saying this to be all gloom and doom, but ultimately boasting the most testing doesn't seem worthy of much note if that data isn't used for containment.
 
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#67,912
Stew Cook said:
I suppose it all comes back to the success of preventing the spread, which we have certainly failed in comparison. It seems that containment isn't a possibility now, and the results of the that failure to do so are all but certain.

Not saying this to be all gloom and doom, but ultimately boasting the most testing doesn't seem worthy of much note if that data isn't used for containment.
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What percent of our population has been infected versus a UK or France? Do you know?
 
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#67,913
0nelilreb said:
Now stand six foot + away from me and tell me where my spit landed . Wear the mask , just stay away from the ones that don’t 🤷‍♂️
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You haven't seen me insist that anyone wear a mask, but I've seen many on here repetitively claim that they are worthless. As if that is a good excuse to not do so.
 
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#67,914
allvol123 said:
I think the comparisons are very difficult to make. Take NY and NJ out and we look completely different.

What is their average age? What is the health of their aged versus ours? What percent live in nursing homes versus ours. On and on.

I see nothing that says we flopped in comparison to them.
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Well Italy, in particular, and the rest of Europe have a older population. I agree there are lots of variables. I am curious to see, and what some project, if the HIT rate is 15-20% on this. That would be huge!
 
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Stew Cook said:
You haven't seen me insist that anyone wear a mask, but I've seen many on here repetitively claim that they are worthless. As if that is a good excuse to not do so.
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I’ve seen many say just wear the mask claiming it’s the right thing to do . Using shaming to try to push their point of view also . I don’t care if you seal your head off in a pickle jug , that’s up to you . I watched a dude trying that shaming in real time here in a corner store , it didn’t go well . I think we have a lot of people around here that are over the whole thing .
 
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@TennTradition now that some time has passed and the UK looks to have bottomed out, we hope, what do you think of that comment by N. Ferguson that 1/2 to 2/3 of their covid deaths would have died this year regardless? Can you buy any of that with them at 47k deaths?
 
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#67,923
GAVol said:
I can see how it might look like a partisan swipe, but it really wasn’t. Nobody expects a fastball down the middle, but if you’re going to do it, at least have the ball land somewhere near the catcher lol. He looked like Barney Fife out there.
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Or Otis.
 
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#67,924
MontyPython said:
It's a tough call. I don't think schools that have made the decision to operate online are doing so out of political animus towards Trump.
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Agreed. I don’t think any local government decisions have been about Trump. The same is true of schools. I’d guess that some may choose online out of local pressures from teachers, parents, or others. Some may simply because they’re worried about spreading it, whether valid or not.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Mask wearing reduces spread. It's not just fact, it common sense.

Ok, non-biased one, tell me at what age a school-aged child is likely to spread as easily as an adult? I'll just tell you that the data is out there, and Trump with his thumb on the CDC, isn't eager to have that data shared officially.
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According to TN counties a child is able to spread it at 12 years old but not 11.
 
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