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volfanhill said:
To be fair Almost 40% of those deaths are from certain Governors putting sick people in nursing homes. That’s not on Trump.
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Andrew Cuomo personally signed more people's death certificates with his decisions in one state than Trump even came close to with any of his decisions or rhetoric. Cuomo virus.
 
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volfanhill said:
To be fair Almost 40% of those deaths are from certain Governors putting sick people in nursing homes. That’s not on Trump.
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This goes back to the same discussion we had the other day.

Cuomo didn’t order those people sent to nursing homes. One of his underlings did. He’s still responsible. Why?

Because the person in charge bears responsibility for the actions of people who fill the void created by the absence of his leadership.

The same process allocated blame for that to Trump.

GAVol said:
Yet... the hero of the other side is Andrew Cuomo. Nobody is making any sense right now.
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They’re doing what they can with what they have, I guess. New York has done a good job of turning things around but Cuomo and DeBlSio are partially responsible for it being bad in the first place.

The best (and some of the worst) responses have been Republican governors. Larry Hogan seems to have done a fine job. Tate Reeves is doing alright despite being at a disadvantage in terms of resources and at-risk populace. Bill Lee has done okay. No surprise Democrats are having to fluff guys who haven’t done as well.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
You need to stop now because you are embarrassing yourself. It’s as bad as Micky playing captain hindsight as to what Trump could have done to handle the virus better. Your TDS is pretty pathetic.
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That’s stopped you, before.

TDS is a bunch of grown ass men trying to pretend like the president of the United States isn’t responsible for this cluster****.

Idk there’s enough room for all of your lips on the man’s ass at once.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
This goes back to the same discussion we had the other day.

Cuomo didn’t order those people sent to nursing homes. One of his underlings did. He’s still responsible. Why?

Because the person in charge bears responsibility for the actions of people who fill the void created by the absence of his leadership.

The same process allocated blame for that to Trump.



They’re doing what they can with what they have, I guess. New York has done a good job of turning things around but Cuomo and DeBlSio are partially responsible for it being bad in the first place.

The best (and some of the worst) responses have been Republican governors. Larry Hogan seems to have done a fine job. Tate Reeves is doing alright despite being at a disadvantage in terms of resources and at-risk populace. Bill Lee has done okay. No surprise Democrats are having to fluff guys who haven’t done as well.
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Just to be clear, are you suggesting Trump is in some way responsible for the actions of Cuomo’s underling? I just want to make sure I understand your argument.
 
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volfanhill said:
Just to be clear, are you suggesting Trump is in some way responsible for the actions of Cuomo’s underling? I just want to make sure I understand your argument.
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Yes. He has deluded himself into believing federalism isn't real, and that America is just a bunch of local managers who report to one Supreme ruler who happens to be Trump.

Completely insane stuff.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
Yes. He has deluded himself into believing federalism isn't real, and that America is just a bunch of local managers who report to one Supreme ruler who happens to be Trump.

Completely insane stuff.
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I understood him to mean that Trump won't take responsibility for anything done by his underlings and that his devout followers go along with it the notion that anyone under him is autonomous and their actions would be no reflection on him.

All the while these same Trump loyalists.would suggest that in NY, the buck stops.with Cuomo.
 
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Stew Cook said:
I understood him to mean that Trump won't take responsibility for anything done by his underlings and that his devout followers go along with it the notion that anyone under him is autonomous and their actions would be no reflection on him.

All the while these same Trump loyalists.would suggest that in NY, the buck stops.with Cuomo.
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Trump isn’t capable of admitting a mistake. One of the many reasons he isn’t a good leader.
 
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volfanjustin said:
They have forced people to shut their businesses down, stay home, lose their jobs and now wear a mask over a virus that has a 99% survival rate. And a good number of people who have it wouldn’t even know they had it.
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Who is "they" Justin? It's happening again, and it's not because things are proving to be dandy.

Do you think those making the decisions are just doing it to hurt people. If that were so, FL and TX would have never looked back.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I very rarely heard it referred to as that. Swine flu is what I remember. But now we can rename it the Barry Flu it will be good.
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Once again, you are projecting your own understanding onto others. I saw it being called the "H1N1 Pandemic", more than anything else. You are in a paranoid state of mind, and you want to believe that everyone, including the science and medical communities, are out to get Trump and hurt his chances of being re-elected. Trump loves playing the victim card, and his minions buy every single, self-pitying, pathetic word of it. Someone or something has always done Trump wrong. There is always some grievance to air.... It's so unfair. Cry me a f'ing river.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Who is "they" Justin? It's happening again, and it's not because things are proving to be dandy.

Do you think those making the decisions are just doing it to hurt people. If that were so, FL and TX would have never looked back.
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They: Democrat/communist mayors and governors and some weak RINOs
They are doing it to hurt Trump, if it causes millions to lose everything ehh that’s just collateral damage
 
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volfanjustin said:
They: Democrat/communist mayors and governors and some weak RINOs
They are doing it to hurt Trump, if it causes millions to lose everything ehh that’s just collateral damage
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This is irrational paranoia. The state of Texas, which by the way, has a Republican governor, Greg Abbott, and is still widely regarded as being a "red state", set a one day record for increases in COVID-19 deaths and COVID-19 related hospitalizations for the state. Texas just reported 197 deaths and 10,893 hospitalizations. This has forced officials in Hidalgo County to start storing bodies in refrigerated trucks. Like I said in an above post, Trump makes everything political and always about himself. Trump loves playing the victim card, and his minions, who can't think for themselves, love to follow his lead down the path of paranoia and self-pity. Someone has always done Trump wrong. There is always another grievance to whine about, and some other reason to feel sorry for Trump. It's pathetic.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is irrational paranoia. The state of Texas, which by the way, has a Republican governor, Greg Abbott, and is still widely regarded as being a "red state", set a one day record for increases in COVID-19 deaths and COVID-19 related hospitalizations for the state. Texas just reported 197 deaths and 10,893 hospitalizations. This has forced officials in Hidalgo County to start storing bodies in refrigerated trucks. Like I said in an above post, Trump makes everything political and always about himself. Trump loves playing the victim card, and his minions, who can't think for themselves, love to follow his lead down the path of paranoia and self-pity. Someone has always done Trump wrong. There is always another grievance to whine about, and some other reason to feel sorry for Trump. It's pathetic.
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agreed it’s pathetic. But these hospitals, from what I understand, are still doing elective surgeries. They aren’t overwhelmed with COVID. They are overwhelmed with trying to make money and COVID. Take the hospital my sister in law is the chief nurse practitioner of. They are in a hot spot in GA. They are 97% full. When they eliminated electives when this started they were losing $20 million a week. It’s a balance from here on out for hospitals. And, quite frankly, that’s where bailouts should go.
 
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volfanhill said:
agreed it’s pathetic. But these hospitals, from what I understand, are still doing elective surgeries. They aren’t overwhelmed with COVID. They are overwhelmed with trying to make money and COVID. Take the hospital my sister in law is the chief nurse practitioner of. They are in a hot spot in GA. They are 97% full. When they eliminated electives when this started they were losing $20 million a week. It’s a balance from here on out for hospitals. And, quite frankly, that’s where bailouts should go.
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Yeah I have heard the same stuff here about our hospitals here but they are far from truly overwhelmed...... they do have tough decisions to make on how to handle the covid patients they do have though.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is irrational paranoia. The state of Texas, which by the way, has a Republican governor, Greg Abbott, and is still widely regarded as being a "red state", set a one day record for increases in COVID-19 deaths and COVID-19 related hospitalizations for the state. Texas just reported 197 deaths and 10,893 hospitalizations. This has forced officials in Hidalgo County to start storing bodies in refrigerated trucks. Like I said in an above post, Trump makes everything political and always about himself. Trump loves playing the victim card, and his minions, who can't think for themselves, love to follow his lead down the path of paranoia and self-pity. Someone has always done Trump wrong. There is always another grievance to whine about, and some other reason to feel sorry for Trump. It's pathetic.
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Is that more hospitalizations than normal?
 
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