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#403
Without an ability to cut through all the politicized and biased claims being made by purported news organizations and social media sites, it's hard to know what to believe. So I just try to go by common sense.

Common sense tells me that masks probably help a lot. Here's kind of how I envision it:

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(imagine those masks actually on the faces...I spread them out just to show how I imagine the water droplets being trapped)

Right? When we breathe out, especially when we cough, sneeze, shout, are eating/drinking, or are breathing heavily like during exercise, the air going out of our lungs includes water droplets. Some big enough to see, but most are much finer than that; some droplets can be as small as a human cell. And if we have a disease, there will be millions of virus molecules in our breath too, a few on their own, but most clinging to all those water droplets (in relative sizes, if a virus is as big as the period at the end of this sentence, most water droplets are as big across as this paragraph, or bigger).

Seems to me any mask, even Behr's crochet knit one, will stop some of those water droplets, so some of the disease. The better the mask, the finer its weave, the more droplets get captured. If it's a really good mask, like an N95, then it can stop all the water droplets and even some of the unattached virus molecules. The weave can be that fine.

No mask is perfect, though, because no fit is perfect. Some air is going to escape around the edges. But the better the fabric of the mask, and the tighter the fit, the more it will help. Something's going to get through, but less and less as the fabric and fit get better.

And a second mask is a multiplier (no, not 2 masks worn by one person, heh, that doesn't work the same way). If the first mask is getting 50%, and the second mask is getting 50% of the rest, you are together eliminating 75% of the "viral load" both people will be exposed to...so we'd say 2 masks are twice as good as one. If each mask is 90% effective, you'll eliminate 99% of the viral load, and we can say that 2 masks are TEN TIMES* as good as one.

Anyway, that's how I imagine all this stuff is happening when 2 people get close to each other. So I wear a mask, and I appreciate other folks who i run into that are also wearing masks. I'm never gonna get upset at anyone for not wearing a mask, but I appreciate when they do, because they're protecting me and them both.


* First mask gets 90%, leaving 10% out there...second mask gets 90% of that remaining 10%, which is 9% of the original total. Leaving just 1% that gets through both these theoretical masks. So together, they are 99% effective. The two masks (where just 1% gets through) are 10x as good as one mask (where 10% gets through).
 
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chuckb1448 said:
Check vehicle Fatalities, 240k more to that , let's get rid of transportation
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There are all kinds of laws, restrictions and safety regulations that are applied and/or enforced and are being studied and added to or changed constantly. It's not like they said "F it".
 
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NEOCON said:
Other countries have a handle on it cause they are counting car accidents as covid deaths.

I will pray for the little girl but the way our country is counting cases is highly political.

12 guys go into a clinic and 1 has it and they dont even test the other 11. They just jot down 12 confirmed.

We are no better or worse than any other country right now with it.
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Well...I know an executive with a large health system in Georgia and they are having to combat conspiracy theories like that. They are absolutely NOT doing that. She actually was telling me about the daily positives going up from 5 to 6 per day when the spread slowed down during all the shut downs and how it has steadily crept up to 20 to 30 per day. That system covers about four counties with a lot of rural areas, so that rate increase seems to match up with the national numbers. If they were being as reckless as you suggest, then I'm sure the numbers would be a lot higher than that. I'm sure there are some hospitals that are having issues with inconsistent reporting, but I don't think it's the norm. The only real reporting errors that I'm aware of are that some labs in Florida were only reporting positives. It had a small impact on raising the positive rate in Florida, but it didn't change the actual number of people testing positive.
 
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ManboyVol said:
Yes, let's end team sports for a virus that has a mortality rate equal to that of stepping on a Lego, and that 99.9% of the time only is dangerous people over 70.
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Doesn't matter what you or I think. It's those in charge.

I hope I never get to the point where I think people over 70 are expendable
 
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utvols83 said:
Well...I know an executive with a large health system in Georgia and they are having to combat conspiracy theories like that. They are absolutely NOT doing that. She actually was telling me about the daily positives going up from 5 to 6 per day when the spread slowed down during all the shut downs and how it has steadily crept up to 20 to 30 per day. That system covers about four counties with a lot of rural areas, so that rate increase seems to match up with the national numbers. If they were being as reckless as you suggest, then I'm sure the numbers would be a lot higher than that. I'm sure there are some hospitals that are having issues with inconsistent reporting, but I don't think it's the norm. The only real reporting errors that I'm aware of are that some labs in Florida were only reporting positives. It had a small impact on raising the positive rate in Florida, but it didn't change the actual number of people testing positive.
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Um....this was literally stated in a media briefing by Florida's head of their states health department.

Guess she was in in the conspiracy too.
 
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Cmacsmokey said:
You do know this virus never leaves you right? lifelong effects from it and the antibodies wear off after two to three months so you can get it again.
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Source for your information on the 2 or 3 month numbers and that it will produce lifelong effects. I know it may compromise some for the rest of their lives but what are the quoted percentages?
 
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Has Tennessee, Clemson or any other college program where players tested positive ever reported on the condition of the players? How many players had temperature, how high, how long, any hospitalized, etc.? These facts would be more important than these rumors, statistics that may or may not be accurate.
 
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#419
Raebo said:
Has Tennessee, Clemson or any other college program where players tested positive ever reported on the condition of the players? How many players had temperature, how high, how long, any hospitalized, etc.? These facts would be more important than these rumors, statistics that may or may not be accurate.
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You’ll never see that stuff due to HIPAA restrictions.
 
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GAVol said:
I’m weary of anyone who says anything other than the obvious... more than we expected are still getting it but fewer seem to be dying.
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Several factors involved. The biggest being that deaths follow weeks to even a month or more after new cases crop up. However, many of the new cases are younger people who are less likely to die BUT still risk lengthy hospitalization. As more people fill up hospitals, which is happening, the choices for who gets treatment is going to lead to a death surge again. May not be as bad as in March-April but it to pretend the disease has magically stopped killing people is naive.

Just look at Houston who started having a flare up of cases about a month ago. They just had a record day of 175 deaths on Friday.
 
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utvols83 said:
Here's some truth that has hit home. A good family friend of mine has a little 5 year old that has already survived leukemia and she just tested positive for COVID. Just got the news 30 minutes ago. Unfortunately, her dad believed the virus was overblown and largely a hoax. She has a fever and is obviously sick but manageable so far. If you can, say a prayer for her and her family. Also, don't be a snowflake and wear a mask when you're in a situation where you can't keep a good distance from others. COVID is real. Other countries have a handle on it because the majority of citizens realize it is not a political issue where you need to take a side, but it's a medical issue where you need to take common sense measures to avoid being infected or spreading it.
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We all know there's a virus and it can kill people with underlying issues but if you can't see your government and MSM has made it political then I don't know how to help you.
 
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