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Welp let's dive into the ages old, how the hell did they build them things and why are there pyramids on Mars and sphinx's, and on the dollar bill, and underground, and under water, and most likely on other planets and the moons. Why are they so precisely aligned with constellations and all the other precise geometric's.
 
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VOLATNES said:
Exactly. What sense does it make to have conference only? Playing football is playing football. Why does it matter who it’s against. What has this country become. It is over as we’ve known it. Sad days.

Not sure this county has the fortitude to withstand much anymore. The Greatest Generation has to be turning over in their graves.
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Actually, you have to think about it. Keeping it inside the conference allows the conference to control policies. Why would we want to play Charlotte, when that school probably doesn’t have the money to test as much as the SEC? Would you like it if Eric Gray tests positive after playing Charlotte and can’t play against Florida?

There is actually some sense to it, and yes, we will be ok.
 
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T Dog said:
Welp let's dive into the ages old, how the hell did they build them things and why are there pyramids on Mars and sphinx's, and on the dollar bill, and underground, and under water, and most likely on other planets and the moons. Why are they so precisely aligned with constellations and all the other precise geometric's.
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So "breaking news" today is that most of the P-5 conferences are now very seriously looking at possibly a conference only schedule for this year. So obviously G-5 and FCS schools are really going to be hurting from a financial perspective. I mean they don’t make any money if they don’t go for the big payday against at least a couple P-5 opponents.

The P-5 hosts makes most of its money from these cupcake games based on gameday receipts (tickets and stuff). The TV audiences aren’t big at all. SEC network doesn’t share ratings info or Nielsen doesn’t rate them, whichever, we don’t know what SECN game audiences are but we do know what ESPNU audiences are. Last year the ESPNU audience for our game with Georgia State was 702k. For our game with UAB, again on ESPNU, the TV audience was 496k. For BYU on ESPN we had a TV audience of 1.6m and for our SEC games on ESPN, (UF, GA, & UA), we were around 4m per game. Our best rating of the year was the bowl game against Indiana, over 4.3m on ESPN.

I think the deal with dropping OOC games isn’t because of health risks from the virus. I think it’s probably because we’re trying to offset the lost gameday revenue that is expected because of the virus. We just flat out make a lot more money if there’s a lot more people watching on TV. I’m sure we’d like to keep the OU game but then it would be obvious that we were telling the little guys to go it on their own. jmo.

There are two sources of TV revenues for football. I’m assuming we get a cut from both. The first source is TV subscribers. For SEC Network subscribers in the south the cost is around $14/year. Outside the south SEC Network subscribers pay a much lower rate. I think the ESPN subscription package is around $100+ per year. ESPN has around 83m subscribers and the SECN has I think around 62m. As noted above the audiences on ESPN proper, ABC, or CBS are a lot larger, which leads to greater advertising revenue, the second stream of money, a portion of which supports football.

I think we may generate more TV revenue from a 10 game conference schedule that we typically generate with a normal 12 game schedule featuring at least 3 cupcakes. This is a business decision primarily. jmo.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
So "breaking news" today is that most of the P-5 conferences are now very seriously looking at possibly a conference only schedule for this year. So obviously G-5 and FCS schools are really going to be hurting from a financial perspective. I mean they don’t make any money if they don’t go for the big payday against at least a couple P-5 opponents.

The P-5 hosts makes most of its money from these cupcake games based on gameday receipts (tickets and stuff). The TV audiences aren’t big at all. SEC network doesn’t share ratings info or Nielsen doesn’t rate them, whichever, we don’t know what SECN game audiences are but we do know what ESPNU audiences are. Last year the ESPNU audience for our game with Georgia State was 702k. For our game with UAB, again on ESPNU, the TV audience was 496k. For BYU on ESPN we had a TV audience of 1.6m and for our SEC games on ESPN, (UF, GA, & UA), we were around 4m per game. Our best rating of the year was the bowl game against Indiana, over 4.3m on ESPN.

I think the deal with dropping OOC games isn’t because of health risks from the virus. I think it’s probably because we’re trying to offset the lost gameday revenue that is expected because of the virus. We just flat out make a lot more money if there’s a lot more people watching on TV. I’m sure we’d like to keep the OU game but then it would be obvious that we were telling the little guys to go it on their own. jmo.

There are two sources of TV revenues for football. I’m assuming we get a cut from both. The first source is TV subscribers. For SEC Network subscribers in the south the cost is around $14/year. Outside the south SEC Network subscribers pay a much lower rate. I think the ESPN subscription package is around $100+ per year. ESPN has around 83m subscribers and the SECN has I think around 62m. As noted above the audiences on ESPN proper, ABC, or CBS are a lot larger, which leads to greater advertising revenue, the second stream of money, a portion of which supports football.

I think we may generate more TV revenue from a 10 game conference schedule that we typically generate with a normal 12 game schedule featuring at least 3 cupcakes. This is a business decision primarily. jmo.
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As I stated above, I think health risks certainly play a part. The G5 teams don’t have nearly as much money to test. Their protocols may not be as stringent. Plus, conferences can control all of their own teams. It allows the conferences to set their own policies for testing, etc. Your point is well taken, but I think they just want any games to be played, and conference games make the most sense.
 
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engineerVOL said:
I’m talking about the SCOTUS ruling. Half of Oklahoma is a reservation now 😆
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A casino in every town
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Catbone said:
Limit capacity to 20%

provide hand sanitization areas

Recommend those that are over 65 and those with health problems stay home

Ban tailgating and vol walk

Provide or require masks

Sign a waiver to potential health risks

Have tons of staff members taking temperature at gate

Discourage lines or close down vendors in stadium

OR

Just outright ban the fans and before games take temperature and have a wellness check on each and every coach, staff member, and player before playing. Provide covid testing after each game.

There are probably ways to get it done. But it's an election year. Politics says the season won't happen. Potential money loss says it will.
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Cardboard cutouts in seats if we get no fans!😄
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Thanks everyone for the thoughts and prayers. My father in law passed away about 45 minutes ago...I am just glad my wife got down there in time to be with him and her family before he passed. I am headed down there in the morning.

My mothers last words to me are the greatest comfort..."There’s a brighter day..everything is gonna be alright"
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VOLATNES said:
Exactly. What sense does it make to have conference only? Playing football is playing football. Why does it matter who it’s against. What has this country become. It is over as we’ve known it. Sad days.

Not sure this county has the fortitude to withstand much anymore. The Greatest Generation has to be turning over in their graves.
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Young people are and will hang out regardless. They'll almost be safer from the virus playing the sport because they will be monitored so closely.
 
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utvols88 said:
Conference only games are really stupid. What's the difference between Tennessee flying to Oklahoma Vs Arkansas or Miami to Syracuse? Dumb
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It’s a matter of getting the season played with as little collateral damage as possible. 2020 has been an unprecedented year. We’ll be fortunate to have any games played at all.
 
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So many people didn't like my post from weeks back about going all SEC and play as many games as possible in a reasonable time frame. Guess what may happen.

Can get in a 10 game season plus the SECCG by Thanksgiving weekend. Will allow for one bye week and an extra week to prepare for the SECCG. An alternative would be to play a 9 game season, one bye, followed by a semi with #1 in each division playing the cross division #2. Skip a week and have the SECCG. The alternative would probably make more money since it would have direct championship implications. Don't have to change ESD in December.

Bama wins they get to claim their 100th NC.
 
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