2020 Presidential Race

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headhunter15 said:
What would you call the bs? For the most part, I think most Americans view the two terms as equal, when obviously there is a big difference.
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There is a huge difference between "liberal" and "leftist", we agree there. And most of the differences laid out in the article are correct. There are just a few I disagree with.

My main disagreement is the nationalist/anti-immigrant bit. Liberals are overwhelmingly pro-free trade, pro-immigrant, pro-international alliances.
And the unnecessary digs at Obama, obvious support for Trump by the writer, is just annoying. Trump is a populist and much, much more aligned with anti-liberalism.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
There is a huge difference between "liberal" and "leftist", we agree there. And most of the differences laid out in the article are correct. There are just a few I disagree with.

My main disagreement is the nationalist/anti-immigrant bit. Liberals are overwhelmingly pro-free trade, pro-immigrant, pro-international alliances.
And the unnecessary digs at Obama, obvious support for Trump by the writer, is just annoying. Trump is a populist and much, much more aligned with anti-liberalism.
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Didn’t you do some work on the Mayor Pete campaign? I’m fairly new to the Politics thread.
 
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StarRaider said:
So you are saying that they all did not raise their hands? You saw something different from me.
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Yes. Pete has never once advocated for socialized, M4A single payer insurance. Not once. He caught a lot of **** for not jumping on the AOC/Bernie Bro wagon for single payer. He also had a lot of issues with the Green New Deal.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Yes. Pete has never once advocated for socialized, M4A single payer insurance. Not once. He caught a lot of **** for not jumping on the AOC/Bernie Bro wagon for single payer. He also had a lot of issues with the Green New Deal.
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Now I definitely know why I respected Mayor Pete during the primaries!
 
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zeppelin128 said:
There is a huge difference between "liberal" and "leftist", we agree there. And most of the differences laid out in the article are correct. There are just a few I disagree with.

My main disagreement is the nationalist/anti-immigrant bit. Liberals are overwhelmingly pro-free trade, pro-immigrant, pro-international alliances.
And the unnecessary digs at Obama, obvious support for Trump by the writer, is just annoying. Trump is a populist and much, much more aligned with anti-liberalism.
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The right/conservatism is pro-immigrant, too.

The difference is that the right sees a distinction between following the rules to come to the US legally vs. sneaking across the border Illegally and living in the shadows.
 
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MG1968 said:
The right/conservatism is pro-immigrant, too.

The difference is that the right sees a distinction between following the rules to come to the US legally vs. sneaking across the border Illegally and living in the shadows.
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That isn't true either. Both sides just disagree on the rules.
 
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