Knox County Passes Mandatory Indoor Face Masks

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Jxn Vol said:
From what I have seen the mask wearers practices are putting them more at risk. They are bringing things that they touch to their face and leaving it there on their masks. Only to breathe it in all day.
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Some discipline is necessary with all mask wearing from professional dust masks, to cloth masks, to n95s. You should touch your mask as little as humanly possible during a pandemic much like touching your face, don't touch either.
 
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Coug said:
Some discipline is necessary with all mask wearing from professional dust masks, to cloth masks, to n95s. You should touch your mask as little as humanly possible during a pandemic much like touching your face, don't touch either.
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That’s why these disposable masks are made to be disposable. But somehow the goalposts have been moved to where we are doing something good if we wear these things over and over again.
 
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Went to Weigel's earlier for milk, and no face masks. Even one of the clerks wasn't wearing one. Pissed me off, but only because I had taken the time to find and wear one when I really didn't want to. I felt like someone had left me out of the memo loop that we weren't going to comply with this order.
 
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Weezer said:
Went to Weigel's earlier for milk, and no face masks. Even one of the clerks wasn't wearing one. Pissed me off, but only because I had taken the time to find and wear one when I really didn't want to. I felt like someone had left me out of the memo loop that we weren't going to comply with this order.
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Ha. I know this feeling. I think I have been to Kroger everyday since the mandate started. Walked in tonight and their were all kinds of people not wearing them. I'm done with it.
 
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Coug said:
Nobody really knows the answer to that yet. It's a fact though that this virus is more virulent/contagious(much easier to catch) than even the flu so it's easy to wager the viral load necessary to infect a person is pretty low.
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I'm sure some labs are already testing with a Niosh bioaerosol cyclone sampler or an SKC BioSample and flu RNA can be smaller than 1 micron. Some lab somewhere knows the answer.
 
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0nelilreb said:
.. Or you could just avoid people not wearing a mask and not have to worry about them or yourself . Show them the same courtesy as they are showing you , by not forcing their ideology onto you by demanding you take off the mask to help strengthen herd immunity. The last flu season did you demand everyone get a flu shot as a courtesy to you and wear a mask until after flu season was over ?
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This is NOT the flu.
 
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voltraveler said:
This is NOT the flu.
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It can be and is passed on between people just exactly like the flu correct ? The semantics of calling it the flu or Covid makes no difference in how it’s spread to the masses . I mean if it makes you feel better I’ll just agree with you and go from there but that won’t change the rest of my post. People of all ages die from the flu every year by the thousands .
 
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kcvols1 said:
Last I checked, my Constitutional Law Book was written by Erwin Chermerensky, not Professor Spangler.

If you can’t enforce it, which you can’t effectively, just say so. Don’t BS about constitutionality.
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Logical fallacy - Appeal to Authority

BTW, what does Erwin Chemerensky have to say about non-elected boards making law? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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macrovol said:
Logical fallacy - Appeal to Authority

BTW, what does Erwin Chemerensky have to say about non-elected boards making law? Inquiring minds want to know.
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No fallacy if we can all agree on Chemerensky’s expertise. I’m going out on a “limb” that Erwin’s scholarship and advocacy before the Supreme Court might put him in a better position to reliably explain the Federal Constitution than any county sheriff in the US.

As for unelected bodies making law, it happens all the time. See generally the CFR listing binding legal regulations enforced by the IRS, SEC, DHS, NOAA, etc. Presumably, though, they’re all accountable to the elected executive. I think that’s Mayor Kane in this instance right?
 
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kcvols1 said:
No fallacy if we can all agree on Chemerensky’s expertise. I’m going out on a “limb” that Erwin’s scholarship and advocacy before the Supreme Court might put him in a better position to reliably explain the Federal Constitution than any county sheriff in the US.

As for unelected bodies making law, it happens all the time. See generally the CFR listing binding legal regulations enforced by the IRS, SEC, DHS, NOAA, etc. Presumably, though, they’re all accountable to the elected executive. I think that’s Mayor Kane in this instance right?
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1. You just made my point. His position has absolutely no bearing on the veracity of the statement.
2. The fact that unelected people make law does not make it constitutional. Neither the Tennessee Constitution nor the US Constitution gives the respective legislatures the power to delegate their authority. Please ask Mr. Chemerensky to cite where it does.
 
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macrovol said:
1. You just made my point. His position has absolutely no bearing on the veracity of the statement.
2. The fact that unelected people make law does not make it constitutional. Neither the Tennessee Constitution nor the US Constitution gives the respective legislatures the power to delegate their authority. Please ask Mr. Chemerensky to cite where it does.
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1. Wut? You should re-read, think a bit, then re-read again if you reach the same conclusion.

2. See generally the Administrative Procedure Act of 1946 and 74 years of derivative legislation and jurisprudence relating thereto.
 
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kcvols1 said:
No fallacy if we can all agree on Chemerensky’s expertise. I’m going out on a “limb” that Erwin’s scholarship and advocacy before the Supreme Court might put him in a better position to reliably explain the Federal Constitution than any county sheriff in the US.

As for unelected bodies making law, it happens all the time. See generally the CFR listing binding legal regulations enforced by the IRS, SEC, DHS, NOAA, etc. Presumably, though, they’re all accountable to the elected executive. I think that’s Mayor Kane in this instance right?
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That's actually the definition of the fallacy. You just argued constitutionality without arguing the constitution.

The second paragraph is a causal fallacy. Just because something happened after the Constitution doesn't make it Constitutional.
 
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I know in Nashville if you get questioned by a cop about not wearing a mask you just tell them you have a medical condition that prevents you from wearing one, I assume most and maybe all other cities has the same policy. Just keep that in mind while you are out

Also isn't it funny the ones who feel so strong that we have over policing and police departments should be defunded are now calling on cops to give fines to those who refuse to wear a mask
 
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volfanjustin said:
I know in Nashville if you get questioned by a cop about not wearing a mask you just tell them you have a medical condition that prevents you from wearing one, I assume most and maybe all other cities has the same policy. Just keep that in mind while you are out

Also isn't it funny the ones who feel so strong that we have over policing and police departments should be defunded are now calling on cops to give fines to those who refuse to wear a mask
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Oh the irony!
 
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Orange_Crush said:
That's actually the definition of the fallacy. You just argued constitutionality without arguing the constitution.

The second paragraph is a causal fallacy. Just because something happened after the Constitution doesn't make it Constitutional.
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I thought we were talking about the relative strength of sources, Lifetime constitutional scholar vs. county sheriff. Silly me. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree given the limits of time and this forum.

In the interest of cutting to the chase, what’s the Sheriff’s basis for stating the mask mandate is unconstitutional? Did he have a citation?
 
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