2020 Presidential Race

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zeppelin128 said:
He was in PA the other day, nobody covered it. Not too mention the millions of dollars he has raised from his "bunker". Honestly, why leave the bunker when Trump and his supporters are shooting themselves in the foot and burning everything down around them?
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The only reason he's is staying in the bunker is because Jill knows if he's out and talking it will quickly remind everyone how incompetent he is
 
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I love the smell of MAGA in the morning. But sometimes it's admittedly hard to distinguish from the smell of a dumpster fire.

 
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volfanjustin said:
I asked the other day what has O'Biden ever accomplished in his life and of course I got no answers. I want to ask the liberals this, what policy that he has pushed specifically has you so excited?
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Remember how passionate you were about, "anybody but Hillary". Same thing today except the shoe is on the other foot.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I will point you to 2016 where 99% of the polls were wrong.
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All polls are wrong to some degree, but averages are quite good.

Final 2016 RCP polling average gave Hillary a 3.2% advantage in popular vote.

Actual result gave Hillary a 2.1% advantage in the popular vote.

Looking at the polls honestly, not narrative based interpretations from partisans, clearly showed a good chance of a Trump win.

Four days prior to the election Nate Silver posted this, based on polling analysis with slight adjustments for each pollsters partisan lean over time:



This led to some hilarious takes from the left, for sure.

Nate Silver Is Unskewing Polls -- All Of Them -- In Trump's Direction | HuffPost

Because Silver is also unskewing state polls, which explains, for instance, why 538 is predicting Trump will win Florida, even as we and others (and the early vote) see it as a comfortable Clinton lead. To see how it works in action, take the Marist College poll conducted Oct. 25-26. Silver rates Marist as an “A” pollster, and they found Clinton with a 1-point lead. Silver then “adjusted” it to make it a 3-point Trump lead. HuffPost Pollster, meanwhile, has near certainty Clinton is leading in Florida.
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Accounting for house effects is not "unskewing". The author here just doesn't like what the data shows. Polling was good. Opinions were wildly wrong, as usual.
 
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tvolsfan said:
You should blame Trump for the current state of the race. His incompetence and stupidity has solved the Democrats enthusiasm problem.
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No I'm asking you dems, what policy specifically has you all so excited to go vote for a frail senile idiot. I want to know what policy he wants to put in place that you all love
 
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McDad said:
Remember how passionate you were about, "anybody but Hillary". Same thing today except the shoe is on the other foot.
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I wasn't simply anti Hiallry, I am anti democrat. And millions were very excited about Trump, no one can deny that. I don't see anyone excited about O'Biden
 
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volfanjustin said:
No I'm asking you dems, what policy specifically has you all so excited to go vote for a frail senile idiot. I want to know what policy he wants to put in place that you all love
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I’m honestly not sure if you’re too dumb to get this. Him removing the Trump tumor from our democracy is sufficient for my vote in 2020.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Not sure how many voted with that mindset. Trump voters typically supported Trump.
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Impossible to quantify. Looks to me that more people became favorable to him after the election. He has a cult-like following now. I believe but cannot prove there was a strong anti-Hillary vote in '16.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I wasn't simply anti Hiallry, I am anti democrat. And millions were very excited about Trump, no one can deny that. I don't see anyone excited about O'Biden
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You understand that anti Trump excitement can be just as powerful as pro Biden excitement, right?
 
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tvolsfan said:
I’m honestly not sure if you’re too dumb to get this. Him removing the Trump tumor from our democracy is sufficient for my vote in 2020.
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Last chance and then I will move on from you. You keep telling me why you are voting against President Trump, now tell me what idea/policy O'Biden has pushed that has you so giddy you can't wait to go vote for that corrupt frail idiot.
 
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McDad said:
Impossible to quantify. Looks to me that more people became favorable to him after the election. He has a cult-like following now. I believe but cannot prove there was a strong anti-Hillary vote in '16.
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Trump had a 30K rally early and packed arenas throughout the campaign. Anti-Hills don't show up to rallies.
 
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volfanjustin said:
Last chance and then I will move on from you. You keep telling me why you are voting against President Trump, now tell me what idea/policy O'Biden has pushed that has you so giddy you can't wait to go vote for that corrupt frail idiot.
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I’m voting for Biden so Donald Trump won’t be president anymore. Not sure why this is difficult for you, or what you think you’re proving.
 
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