2020 Presidential Race

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utvolpj said:
Trump absolutely had trouble speaking at times. There are videos out there of his mumbles and garbled speech. I think he's on uppers when he goes to speak and some times they wear off. He's an old man who didn't take care of himself very well. It happens
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And Joe can’t tell the difference between his wife and sister or remember what the constitution is ( you know that thing ) . It happens though especially when your mental abilities start to decline . If they have a debate .. Joe will be in trouble .
 
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0nelilreb said:
And Joe can’t tell the difference between his wife and sister or remember what the constitution is ( you know that thing ) . It happens though especially when your mental abilities start to decline . If they have a debate .. Joe will be in trouble .
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They both suck. The thought of either one being in charge should cause serious lack of sleep for voters. It's astounding we have come to this point and I have zero doubt our current issues are caused by it. There is no leadership in this country
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Do you consider being elected Vice President twice, accomplishing something? Or are your standards higher than that?
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My standards for a politician are higher. Simply getting elected pales in comparison to what he does when he gets there.
 
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0nelilreb said:
And Joe can’t tell the difference between his wife and sister or remember what the constitution is ( you know that thing ) . It happens though especially when your mental abilities start to decline . If they have a debate .. Joe will be in trouble .
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Not so fast. Joe will be primed and ready. It's his moment . . .

The moment, you own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime, yo
 
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0nelilreb said:
And Joe can’t tell the difference between his wife and sister or remember what the constitution is ( you know that thing ) . It happens though especially when your mental abilities start to decline . If they have a debate .. Joe will be in trouble .
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The corrupt news media will do their best to prevent any debates. They will also tell us the Kung Flu is going to kill us all if we don't shelter in place, so Sleepy Joe can remain ensconced inside his basement with his caretaker, Jill.
 
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utvolpj said:
They both suck. The thought of either one being in charge should cause serious lack of sleep for voters. It's astounding we have come to this point and I have zero doubt our current issues are caused by it. There is no leadership in this country
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This is what I keep saying. We don't have a good choice. Arguments can be made for who is a better choice, but it doesn't make either one a good choice.
 
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utvolpj said:
They both suck. The thought of either one being in charge should cause serious lack of sleep for voters. It's astounding we have come to this point and I have zero doubt our current issues are caused by it. There is no leadership in this country
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You are correct. The most capable leaders in this country (Founders/CEO's, Entrepreneurs/Business Innovators, Military leaders, Scientists/Engineers) have no interest in running for office, primarily because it would mean a huge decrease in income for them, but running for office also comes with public scrutiny into the private life of the candidates and most of them don't want to put themselves and their families through that... especially the ones who have young children or who have been through a divorce, which would include most of them. So, we are mostly left with career politicians, who got into politics not for public service, but as a means of self-enrichment and a career livelihood. Trump is an exception to this, but since he conducts himself in a manner very similar to career politicians, it hasn't made a difference.
 
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utvolpj said:
Trump absolutely has trouble speaking at times. There are videos out there of his mumbles and garbled speech. I think he's on uppers when he goes to speak and some times they wear off. He's an old man who didn't take care of himself very well. It happens
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Never considered he's on meds and we can see the effects or lack thereof.

Interesting.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are correct. The most capable leaders in this country (Founders/CEO's, Entrepreneurs/Business Innovators, Military leaders, Scientists/Engineers) have no interest in running for office, primarily because it would mean a huge decrease in income for them, but running for office also comes with public scrutiny into the private life of the candidates and most of them don't want to put themselves and their families through that... especially the ones who have young children or who have been through a divorce, which would include most of them. So, we are mostly left with career politicians, who got into politics not for public service, but as a means of self-enrichment and a career livelihood. Trump is an exception to this, but since he conducts himself in a manner very similar to career politicians, it hasn't made a difference.
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I think I love you.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Enjoy the poll numbers while you can, just like you did in 2016, before the Silent Majority spoke on election day, Trump 304 Electoral Votes 56.5%.
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I hear your refrain on 2016. I just don't think Trump's numbers ever looked this bad 4 years ago. There are Fox News polls showing Biden with a lead in Texas and Georgia for crying out loud. The attacks on Biden aren't working at the moment. He is much harder to arouse anger against than Hillary Clinton was. Trump is going to try and win another "I'm the lesser of two evils" race. I don't see it happening for him this time around. The American people may not think Biden will make a good president... but nobody hates Biden like they did Hillary.
 
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Weezer said:
Give it five minutes. It'll wear off.
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You don't know what we have. It's special. It'll last.

But seriously, I get where BB is coming from. He dislikes the DJT regime so much that he gets passionate about replacing it. It doesn't matter with who...even Biden. 4 years ago it was anybody but Hillary. Now it's anybody but Trump. In another 4 years, it will be anybody but [insert idiot].
 
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McDad said:
You don't know what we have. It's special. It'll last.

But seriously, I get where BB is coming from. He dislikes the DJT regime so much that he gets passionate about replacing it. It doesn't matter with who...even Biden. 4 years ago it was anybody but Hillary. Now it's anybody but Trump. In another 4 years, it will be anybody but [insert idiot].
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No way for a country to be run.

And he'll drop you faster than a hot potato.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I hear your refrain on 2016. I just don't think Trump's numbers ever looked this bad 4 years ago. There are Fox News polls showing Biden with a lead in Texas and Georgia for crying out loud. The attacks on Biden aren't working at the moment. He is much harder to arouse anger against than Hillary Clinton was. Trump is going to try an win another "I'm the lesser of two evils" race. I don't see it happening for him this time around. The American people may not think Biden will make a good president... but nobody hates Biden like they did Hillary.
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If Biden actually gets on the Debate Stage with Trump, he is going to be attacked unmercifully. What he faced from his opponents in the Bolshevik primaries, is nothing compared to the fire that will be hurled at him from Trump. Trump may even ask Sleepy Joe if his fingers still smell fishy.
 
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McDad said:
You don't know what we have. It's special. It'll last.

But seriously, I get where BB is coming from. He dislikes the DJT regime so much that he gets passionate about replacing it. It doesn't matter with who...even Biden. 4 years ago it was anybody but Hillary. Now it's anybody but Trump. In another 4 years, it will be anybody but [insert idiot].
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It’s not just BB that feels this way. Trump is a special kind of awful.
 
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tvolsfan said:
It’s not just BB that feels this way. Trump is a special kind of awful.
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Agreed. Saw the same with the R side 4 years ago.

Eta: I will say this though, had DJT reduced our national debt, I would vote him. And i havent voted for prez in the last 3 elections.
 
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And the first foreign policy mishap of the election is here.

“Officials developed a menu of potential options - starting with making a diplomatic complaint to Moscow and a demand that it stop, along with an escalating series of sanctions and other possible responses but the White House has yet to authorize any step”
 
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