Major Travis Yates - Thoughts of a LEO

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rjd970 said:
It is actually the other way around, unless there is video the court will believe whatever the police officer says.
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100% of the time.
In my experience, Judges will believe the officer over the video more often than they’ll believe anybody else over the officer.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
“Supervisors used to back you when you were right but now they accuse you of being wrong in order to appease crazy people.”

Another gem that stuck with me.

Yeah, the real problem with the police is that they turn on each other.
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Uhhhh....the police are pretty notorious for actively coaching and assisting with coverups of LEO misdeeds. Plus their word always trumps witness accounts in court.

Really sounds like these guys are crumbling under the pressure of being held accountable and a little adversity. Resignation is probably the best move for the officers and the community. There are plenty of better and tougher cops that can take their place.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Uhhhh....the police are pretty notorious for actively coaching and assisting with coverups of LEO misdeeds. Plus their word always trumps witness accounts in court.

Really sounds like these guys are crumbling under the pressure of being held accountable and a little adversity. Resignation is probably the best move for the officers and the community. There are plenty of better and tougher cops that can take their place.
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I truly believe that is what’s happening. Somebody posted it here or I read it somewhere, but basically what is happening is the the national narrative is treating police officers they way they treat the general public and they don’t like it.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Uhhhh....the police are pretty notorious for actively coaching and assisting with coverups of LEO misdeeds. Plus their word always trumps witness accounts in court.

Really sounds like these guys are crumbling under the pressure of being held accountable and a little adversity. Resignation is probably the best move for the officers and the community. There are plenty of better and tougher cops that can take their place.
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This guy may very well be the best, most righteous cop who ever lived. His attitude is still part of the problem.

The reason we are where we are today is because we’ve spent the better part of a decade telling the police they have a problem and the police responding with self-righteous ******** like this.

There are reasonable policies that would have improved some of these issues, but we spent the last 6 years being fed tripe like this, telling us we’re bad people for wanting to hold police to literally any standard of accountability, while video after video came out and contradicted police reports about how people in their custody sustained injuries.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
“We used to be able to testify in court and we were believed. Now, unless there is video from three different angles, no one cares what you have to say.”

This is utter ********, but to the extent there is a kernel of truth to it: Whose fault is that? Is taking even a little responsibility too much to ask?

Nearly everything else he said about police being the real victims here is an equally disingenuous appeal to emotion over fact.
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In a court of law where a case is determined based on evidence and facts, why should a cops testimony carry more weight than anyone else's? That is one of the major problems.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It’s the only job you can do everything right and lose everything. (Totally not true)


It’s the only job where the same citizens you risk your life for hate you for it. (Self inflicted)


It’s the only segment left in society where it’s cool to discriminate and judge, just because of the uniform you wear. (This coming from a profession that makes a living judging and profiling citizens)


You never get to explain. (Dead men never get their voices heard either)


You can never reason with them. (Feelings mutual)

The nasty words have now turned into rocks and bottles and gunfire. (Which side mostly has the rocks and bottles? Which side mostly has the gunfire?)​

I’ve watched it happen to those around me and I have seen the total destruction of their life. (Destruction of their life vs loss of their life)


This job is a walking a time bomb and you could get cancelled or prosecuted on the very next call, even if you do everything right. (These riots are never sparked by cops that "do everything right")
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You are welcome to replace them if you feel you can do it in a much better way. Also, don't call them when you are in trouble because obviously they are racist and homophobic so you would be much better off calling someone similar to you who has no prejudices or racist qualities. When you are done walking on water, let us all know what it's like
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
In a court of law where a case is determined based on evidence and facts, why should a cops testimony carry more weight than anyone else's? That is one of the major problems.
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Basicallt because a judge can do whatever the hell he wants in his own courtroom. That's one of the primary problems in our judicial system.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
In a court of law where a case is determined based on evidence and facts, why should a cops testimony carry more weight than anyone else's? That is one of the major problems.
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It doesn't work for the city/state govt if a cop isn't given authority and credibility at the onset. The govt hired them so they're automatically deemed to be correct.

How would they enforce traffic tickets if cops had to actually prove that you were speeding to the judge?

Judge- Mr Deeble you're here today because the officer said you were going 70 in a 55.
Me- I wasn't. I had the cruise set on 55. Can he prove it was me? There were several speeding vehicles on I240 at 4pm. Or is this just he said/he said.

Ticket dismissed. But still a waste of my time. There goes a bunch of revenue if cops aren't assumed to be in the right.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
The people in his profession are being held accountable for the first time in this poor guy's career and he just can't take it. Snowflake.
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Yeah that's what's going on right now, "accountability". I hope that you get held that accountable at your job. I mean after all if we are going to evolve as a complex, multi-cultural, inclusive society everyone has to be treated the same way, amirite?
 
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This crybaby bytch is a real POS

Yates was on KFAQ on Monday, in a weekly segment called "Behind the Blue Line," when he said there's no institutional racism in policing.

“All the research said — including Roland Fryer, an African American Harvard professor, Heather MacDonald and the National Academy of Sciences — all of their research says we’re shooting African Americans about 24 percent less than we probably ought to be based on the crimes being committed," Yates said.

Yates did not specifically cite which studies led him to this conclusion.

A representative for the National Academy of Sciences declined comment on Thursday.
 
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landscapingvol said:
You are welcome to replace them if you feel you can do it in a much better way. Also, don't call them when you are in trouble because obviously they are racist and homophobic so you would be much better off calling someone similar to you who has no prejudices or racist qualities. When you are done walking on water, let us all know what it's like
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I'm a conservative, middle class white man, but I'm pretty much to the point that I'll take that trade.

I won't call the cops if they don't exist, and if they don't exist, they can never bust into my house with a no-knock warrant and shoot my wife, kids, or me in the face for sleeping in our own home. If they don't exist, they don't have the authority and arms to make a human shield against potential rescuers as one of their own slowly murders someone over an excruciating nine minute timeline.

I live in the country, on an unpaved rural road, among neighbors that I trust who are as well armed as I am, and pretty much just as self-sufficient (or shall we say, neighborly-sufficient). Each of us own lots of well wooded property where we can bury the interlopers that the police would have had to respond to.

I'm just about fed up with the current state of our entire justice system that I'll accept their exit and give self-governance and the politeness of a well armed society a chance.

Fix this **** or burn it.
 
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landscapingvol said:
You are welcome to replace them if you feel you can do it in a much better way. Also, don't call them when you are in trouble because obviously they are racist and homophobic so you would be much better off calling someone similar to you who has no prejudices or racist qualities. When you are done walking on water, let us all know what it's like
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Is asking cops not to use unnecessary lethal force and not to violate my rights that big of a hurdle?

That is all most reasonable people are asking for.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Yeah that's what's going on right now, "accountability". I hope that you get held that accountable at your job. I mean after all if we are going to evolve as a complex, multi-cultural, inclusive society everyone has to be treated the same way, amirite?
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I've been held accountable many times in a variety of ways and I've always used it to become better.

Anyone who quits the second they're being held accountable for their actions is a spineless coward.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I'm a conservative, middle class white man, but I'm pretty much to the point that I'll take that trade.

I won't call the cops if they don't exist, and if they don't exist, they can never bust into my house with a no-knock warrant and shoot my wife, kids, or me in the face for sleeping in our own home. If they don't exist, they don't have the authority and arms to make a human shield against potential rescuers as one of their own slowly murders someone over an excruciating nine minute timeline.

I live in the country, on an unpaved rural road, among neighbors that I trust who are as well armed as I am, and pretty much just as self-sufficient (or shall we say, neighborly-sufficient). Each of us own lots of well wooded property where we can bury the interlopers that the police would have had to respond to.

I'm just about fed up with the current state of our entire justice system that I'll accept their exit and give self-governance and the politeness of a well armed society a chance.

Fix this **** or burn it.
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Since we are just fixating on the small minority of events that occur in the police profession to incriminate the whole system, let's also do away with the military because innocent civilians have been killed in every combat zone. We should also probably disband the medical industry because some doctors have made errors while performing operations which led to the deaths of patients. Don't even get me started on truck drivers, I mean they act like they own the whole road. I look forward to our new, mistake free society where everyone does their job flawlessly with 100% accountability across the board.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Yeah that's what's going on right now, "accountability". I hope that you get held that accountable at your job. I mean after all if we are going to evolve as a complex, multi-cultural, inclusive society everyone has to be treated the same way, amirite?
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What does that even mean. I hope everyone is held accountable at their job--especially when their job is to preserve the individual rights and dignity that our Constitution spells out.

I hope that the poor young girl at Hardees is held accountable to the correct degree when she gives me a drink with no straw in the bag. I hope officers are held accountable when they bust into the wrong home on a no-knock warrant and shhot some kid's mom in the face when she's asleep in her bed.

If the *****y Hardees is systematically so, I hope they go out of business. If the justice system is encroaching our rights and covering themselves as they do so, I hope they're held responsible and changes are forced.

So, again... WTH does that even mean, "I hope you're held responsible at you're job"? OK. We all do. Now, back to that emotional squawking from the police officers that are tasting the attitude they've been giving for decades.
 
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Tyler Durden said:
I've been held accountable many times in a variety of ways and I've always used it to become better.

Anyone who quits the second they're being held accountable for their actions is a spineless coward.
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I couldn't agree more so in the future when you make a mistake at work let me know that way I can come throw rocks and bottles at you all in the name of "accountability". I doubt a cop has ever been fired
 
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TheDeeble said:
It doesn't work for the city/state govt if a cop isn't given authority and credibility at the onset. The govt hired them so they're automatically deemed to be correct.

How would they enforce traffic tickets if cops had to actually prove that you were speeding to the judge?

Judge- Mr Deeble you're here today because the officer said you were going 70 in a 55.
Me- I wasn't. I had the cruise set on 55. Can he prove it was me? There were several speeding vehicles on I240 at 4pm. Or is this just he said/he said.

Ticket dismissed. But still a waste of my time. There goes a bunch of revenue if cops aren't assumed to be in the right.
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Blue font?? I think I smell what you're cooking, but I want to make sure.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Since we are just fixating on the small minority of events that occur in the police profession to incriminate the whole system, let's also do away with the military because innocent civilians have been killed in every combat zone. We should also probably disband the medical industry because some doctors have made errors while performing operations which led to the deaths of patients. Don't even get me started on truck drivers, I mean they act like they own the whole road. I look forward to our new, mistake free society where everyone does their job flawlessly with 100% accountability across the board.
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You think no-knock warrants and the system that upholds them is fixating on a small minority of things? The whole system has been corrupted by engorging itself with self-oversight and self-governed power.

But, OK... If those other systems are self-feeding, self-governed abusers of civil rights, then I'm all for shutting them down and starting over.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Yeah that's what's going on right now, "accountability". I hope that you get held that accountable at your job. I mean after all if we are going to evolve as a complex, multi-cultural, inclusive society everyone has to be treated the same way, amirite?
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I'm not sure if you are aware of this or not, but if I injure or kill someone on my job or found negligent, I would be held accountable. It is like that for most working stiffs out here. At the very least, I get fired. At the very most, I go to jail.

Or are you calling me a liar?
 
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