Major Travis Yates - Thoughts of a LEO

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BreatheUT said:
The left has tried to destroy this man for speaking the truth. They have even twisted what he said.

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It’s the only job you can do everything right and lose everything. (Totally not true)


It’s the only job where the same citizens you risk your life for hate you for it. (Self inflicted)


It’s the only segment left in society where it’s cool to discriminate and judge, just because of the uniform you wear. (This coming from a profession that makes a living judging and profiling citizens)


You never get to explain. (Dead men never get their voices heard either)


You can never reason with them. (Feelings mutual)

The nasty words have now turned into rocks and bottles and gunfire. (Which side mostly has the rocks and bottles? Which side mostly has the gunfire?)​

I’ve watched it happen to those around me and I have seen the total destruction of their life. (Destruction of their life vs loss of their life)


This job is a walking a time bomb and you could get cancelled or prosecuted on the very next call, even if you do everything right. (These riots are never sparked by cops that "do everything right")
 
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Not all cops are bad, but not all cops are good either. I think LEO's need to recognize and admit that there are people in the profession who do not belong. Chauvin, for example. You don't sit on a man's neck for almost nine minutes while he cries for help. I understand Floyd was resisting arrest, but Chauvin went too far and deserves to face the justice he's supposed to enforce. But it's unfair that the good cops have to carry that bad rap as well. I do believe we need serious police reform, better evaluations to try and catch those who abuse the badge, but not every cop should face the wrath of an angry public. Solutions are found by working together. This idea of disbanding police, I don't think it's going to work like supporters believe it will. People need to stop losing their damn minds and come back to reality if we really want to see change.
 
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This is a perfect example of the saying you can't lump the bad when the good.... All the while lumping the bad with the good. We've entered the surreal, best thing you can do is take up drinking.
 
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Here is my idea.

Mandatory body cams that cant be turned off

Drones that are attached to top of car that automatically take flight and begin streaming live everything back to the station on every stop performed by the officer.

Create a unit of Special officers who monitor these streams and can talk to the officer real time to give advice on how to handle things if it starts to go bad

Psyche test on all new hires and mandatory ptsd/psyche test every year or after a fired weapon situation.
 
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KB5252 said:
This is a perfect example of the saying you can't lump the bad when the good.... All the while lumping the bad with the good. We've entered the surreal, best thing you can do is take up drinking.
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It is rather hard to feel sorry for a profession that has had the opportunity before now to make the necessary changes on their own and on their own terms. But rather than picking their own poison and coming up with meaningful changes, they decided to dig in even deeper and say screw the public.

Maybe the ones that are thinking about leaving should do just that and we can rebuild with the few that are left and maybe start over with a new culture.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It is rather hard to feel sorry for a profession that has had the opportunity before now to make the necessary changes on their own and on their own terms. But rather than picking their own poison and coming u with meaningful changes, they decided to dig in even deeper and say screw the public.

Maybe the one that are thinking about leaving should do just that and we can rebuild with the few that are left and maybe start over with a new culture.
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The problem is the ones that are dug so deep are the ones you actually don't want, they are the embodiment of what's wrong with the police and police culture.

You can't say to the police you have to police your own and then give a pass to those they police when they fail to do the same. Everyone loses.
 
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Rasp I think we agree on much more than we don't. But officers are often just following directives, some legit others are in gray areas. But that's where the real shite happens. I can understand both sides. I've worked in the circles of organized crime, n younger years and civilized society today.


Edit: I did my time and came out clean after three seperate tries. Probation and parole is a female dog but I stacked my shat and came out clean. Police get a bad wrap, if it weren't for assholes like the guy I used to be their job would be easier.
 
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KB5252 said:
The problem is the ones that are dug so deep are the ones you actually don't want, they are the embodiment of what's wrong with the police and police culture.

You can't say to the police you have to police your own and then give a pass to those they police when they fail to do the same. Everyone loses.
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That point didn't get past me. That is why I said...

Maybe the ones that are thinking about leaving should do just that and we can rebuild with the few that are left and maybe start over with a new culture.
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Can we not reform unions so that they don't protect bad employees? Or just get rid of them. I'm not saying they don't do some good. But they seem to not be worth it.
 
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All cops should walk off the job. Letting the communities that need the police the most handle it themselves will be an awesome sight to behold.

Hell, this is the kind of nonsense that can lead to a federalized police force. If a dementia addled kid toucher like Biden gets it I wouldn't be shocked to see that.

"I think the Democratic Party could stand a liberal George Wallace—someone who's not afraid to stand up and offend people, someone who wouldn't pander but would say what the American people know in their gut is right"

"You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent … I'm not joking"

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man "
 
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Clay Travis is not thinking very deeply. It is perfectly possible to disband the police and replace it with another law enforcement model and/or organization. Saying you are going to scrap a police department doesn't mean you are going to allow lawlessness.

If this has already been posted, I apologize.

I live and work in Camden, the New Jersey city that disbanded and rebuilt its police force. We've been upheld as a model for cities like Minneapolis, but there's a lot more to the story.

The City that Really Did Abolish the Police
 
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Purple Tiger said:
Clay Travis is not thinking very deeply. It is perfectly possible to disband the police and replace it with another law enforcement model and/or organization. Saying you are going to scrap a police department doesn't mean you are going to allow lawlessness.

If this has already been posted, I apologize.

I live and work in Camden, the New Jersey city that disbanded and rebuilt its police force. We've been upheld as a model for cities like Minneapolis, but there's a lot more to the story.
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From what I've read Camden PD was still operating like something out of the 1970s. Pretty much every PD in America other than Camden had already done this decades ago, only back then it was just called reform. I've been talking to my teenage relatives, mostly nieces and nephews, about these events. I get the sense that a lot of young people think the end game is exactly to not have police and they're all excited thinking about what kind of stuff they'll be able to get away with. That's the teenage mind, which usually grows and changes but if people are going to ascribe their organization success to two 15 year old girls then they probably should accept that they are representing the motivations and mindsets of 15 year old girls as well.
 
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Purple Tiger said:
Clay Travis is not thinking very deeply. It is perfectly possible to disband the police and replace it with another law enforcement model and/or organization. Saying you are going to scrap a police department doesn't mean you are going to allow lawlessness.

If this has already been posted, I apologize.

I live and work in Camden, the New Jersey city that disbanded and rebuilt its police force. We've been upheld as a model for cities like Minneapolis, but there's a lot more to the story.

The City that Really Did Abolish the Police
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Um..Camden is still one of the top 10 most dangerous cities in the USA. They might have cut their crime down by 42%, but its still a decrepit and violent sh!thole.

10. Camden, NJ
  • Violent Crime Rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.2
  • Chance of being a victim: 1 in 62
NeighborhoodScout’s Most Dangerous Cities - 2020 - NeighborhoodScout

Camden gets away from making a lot of lists because they have a relatively small population which is under 100,000. When you ignore population size and just go off of crimes per 1000 residents Camden rises to the top.

TL/DR..Camden is a terrible example to use and is still a violent sh!thole.
 
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BreatheUT said:
The left has tried to destroy this man for speaking the truth. They have even twisted what he said.

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“We used to be able to testify in court and we were believed. Now, unless there is video from three different angles, no one cares what you have to say.”

This is utter ********, but to the extent there is a kernel of truth to it: Whose fault is that? Is taking even a little responsibility too much to ask?

Nearly everything else he said about police being the real victims here is an equally disingenuous appeal to emotion over fact.
 
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“Supervisors used to back you when you were right but now they accuse you of being wrong in order to appease crazy people.”

Another gem that stuck with me.

Yeah, the real problem with the police is that they turn on each other.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
“We used to be able to testify in court and we were believed. Now, unless there is video from three different angles, no one cares what you have to say.”

This is utter ********, but to the extent there is a kernel of truth to it: Whose fault is that? Is taking even a little responsibility too much to ask?

Nearly everything else he said about police being the real victims here is an equally disingenuous appeal to emotion over fact.
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It is actually the other way around, unless there is video the court will believe whatever the police officer says.
 
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BreatheUT said:
The left has tried to destroy this man for speaking the truth. They have even twisted what he said.

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That is ridiculous appeal to emotion snowflake whining BS that was just vomited on paper. Give me a break. An organization with all the power complaining because they aren’t appreciated by the people under them? Lol. Ok.
 
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