Systemic Racism

So, for the African Americans who "make it out", why them?

And, why when they speak about their lives and their opinions on how and why they did, they are put down and degraded and labeled many things "not black"?

As someone who spent years, and lots of money and energy and time trying to "make a difference", I can tell you it is 99% all in the individual, and one piece of support (that one family member whomever it was), and the ability to block out the #1 cause of quitting, their peers.

Go spend one year in the downtrodden and poorest area's..... offer hope, offer a way out, and see just how many take you up on it and actually do it. If you haven't spent a year of your time and your energy and your money into trying to make a difference, whatever you think or believe, then, there's nothing to be said except go do it, open your eyes, and the answer is simple.

The individual, plus whatever you would call an awakening/awareness to opportunity and hope that is understood and realized, that's what it takes, all else is excuses. Something so simple as..... yes you can, yes you're smart enough, yes, you are strong enough.......just a little reassurance to remind them that confidence in themselves is really all they need as the base or platform from which everything else is possible.

Doesn't mean that the deck isn't stacked against you, that it is easy, that it is impossible or improbable. It's a daily choice, and being willing to block out the voices that say it isn't, because that is the majority, make no mistake, and being consistent, and confident in one's self, is all it really does take simply put. Once again, not easy, but, is more than probable.

You disagree, then tell me how many of these kids you really helped break the cycle, and your experiences. I saw them achieve it, not because of me, but, them, it just took opportunity and hope to open their eyes.

Further, the success stories are so few that they do become sullied by the disproportionate amount of kids that fall off and don't open their eyes, and truly just quit, they really do almost cancel out all the good that you felt with the kids who decided to do, rather than be done to.

As always there's generalization here, but, from my experience, that truly was and is the difference in the kids who achieve and move on, versus those that stay put and stuck.

And, that's not a white or black thing, or environemt thing, it's an individual thing. I've seen just as many rich white kids piss way their futures, too.

Let's discuss the actual time and sweat equity people are putting in to try and help the youth. Because, like a parent, its simple time and sweat equity that need to be put in with these kids, and why isn't that being done from families and friends and community and education.......simple answers......because "we" have failed these kids, not that these kids are failing.

The government ain't your source for that, throw money and lip service at the problem, and see what that has gotten. It's about people spending time with these kids all over and actually being sincere and genuine in your concern for their welfare and betterment. More and more of that is needed, not much else.
 
Sounds pretty intelligent. I wonder if she is a Democrat, since they are more intelligent than Republicans.

That makes me so sad.... for her. I think the Jews will be alright, even with her in the world.


But I can't imagine having to be that sad, angry, ignorant person, or having whatever future she has in life.
 
All the a$$holes show up to pronounce themselves as a$$holes. No need. We know who you are

It is my hope tHere will come a day when those of you who have an incorrect/danngerous/antisocial view of “law and order” will come to realize you don’t fit in and here in the U.S. will seek to live in other countries where dictatorial policies are acceptable. You are not welcomed here.
You should join homeland security. Then you could stop those incorrect/ dangerous/ antisocial views of American law and order from coming across the border.
 
“White people are also poor” is not a refutation of white privilege
Considering the only things that have been defined about white privilege is money based I would say it does.

It's not specific to the point of exclusivity to a single race. And proportionally whites arent the biggest gainers from it, Asian/Indians have been more successful on average than their white counterparts in the same system.

At this point you argument revolves around how much money one has growing up vs actual race.

Maybe you just need to better define white privledge.
 
Jews were enslaved, discriminated against longer. Not to mention the various attempts to exterminate them. They managed.

Here or worldwide? They’re doing well here, but no one came close to enslaving them. In Germany, home of the most famous extermination attempt, there still are relatively few Jews left in the country.

Being vaguely “discriminated against” in America is also not the same as slavery and Jim Crow
 
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Considering the only things that have been defined about white privilege is money based I would say it does.

It's not specific to the point of exclusivity to a single race. And proportionally whites arent the biggest gainers from it, Asian/Indians have been more successful on average than their white counterparts in the same system.

At this point you argument revolves around how much money one has growing up vs actual race.

Maybe you just need to better define white privledge.

“White privledge is based on money because I don’t feel like reading about it” isn’t a problem with the definition, it’s a problem with the laziness of the reader
 
“White privledge is based on money because I don’t feel like reading about it” isn’t a problem with the definition, it’s a problem with the laziness of the reader
I've read about it and watched the videos. As a matter of fact, the post you took issue on was a specific response to a specific video that claims to have proven white privilege.

But I invite you to make the case now. Tell us what it is. Prove it to us now. The catch is, you can't do it via emotional appeals or vague statistical correlations that don't prove cause/effect relationships. Prove it exists.
 
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Here or worldwide? They’re doing well here, but no one came close to enslaving them. I’m Germany, home of the most famous extermination attempt, there still are relatively few Jews left in the country.

Being vaguely “discriminated against” in America is also not the same as slavery and Jim Crow

How are blacks doing in Africa?

White privilege is bs. People can be born into a privileged situation regardless of race. Slavery was wrong but was abolished 150ish years ago. Jim Crow was wrong and was as much about segregation as it was discrimination, not that makes it much better. Again, it was squashed over 50 years ago. “White privilege”, racism, or Jim crow has nothing to do with the fact 18 black people killed 18 other black people just the other day. It has nothing to do with 800k babies aborted each year. It has nothing to do with people simply making bad decisions.
 
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Here or worldwide? They’re doing well here, but no one came close to enslaving them. In Germany, home of the most famous extermination attempt, there still are relatively few Jews left in the country.

Being vaguely “discriminated against” in America is also not the same as slavery and Jim Crow

I'm talking historically and worldwide.

Nobody in the world regardless of race or religion has more opportunity than citizens of theses United States. It's up to the individual to take advantage of that opportunity and in the end it's the individuals fault when they do not.
 
That no matter what hardships a people or person faces it can be overcome.

You believe this? Literally all hardships?

Have blacks not overcome their history? I would say surviving is overcoming. Just because they're not as affluent as Jews doesn't mean they haven't overcome. Just because they overcame doesn't mean they should be content with the system.
 
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I've read about it and watched the videos. As a matter of fact, the post you took issue on was a specific response to a specific video that claims to have proven white privilege.

But I invite you to make the case now. Tell us what it is. Prove it to us now. The catch is, you can't do it via emotional appeals or vague statistical correlations that don't prove cause/effect relationships. Prove it exists.

I know, I’ve seen that video but making it essentially the spokesperson for white privilege (or me, for that matter) is irresponsible.

White privilege isn’t the idea that white people don’t have hard lives, just that race specifically isn’t what is making them harder.

Here are a few examples that aren’t explained by just money:

http://also-chicago.org/also_site/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/white-privilege.pdf
 
You believe this? Literally all hardships?

Have blacks not overcome their history? I would say surviving is overcoming. Just because they're not as affluent as Jews doesn't mean they haven't overcome. Just because they overcame doesn't mean they should be content with the system.

Yes I believe that.

I never said anyone has to be content with the system but even the system can be overcome with enough work.
 
'You're Going Back to Mexico': Woman Slapped After Racial Confrontation in Gas Station

So, white privilege, or.....

Just a mouthy, white, uppity woman with a big mouth who doesn't understand because of her spoiled American upbringing, nothing to do with race, just a protected and sheltered life, where by this bit** just doesn't understand simple school yard civility and that you might get your mouth smacked, or worse, and that words and attitude can have repercussions......

I think just the latter, maybe she is racist or prejudiced, doesn't matter, simple ability to interact and leave things alone versus running your mouth too much and crossing a line, any line, where by another person loses temperance and control, and just reacts.....

Most everyone has a smart mouth today (just read the board), and everyone is a tough guy until it's actually time to be tough.

She's lucky the other woman wasn't mean and knew how to actually fight.
 
Yes I believe that.

I never said anyone has to be content with the system but even the system can be overcome with enough work.

I never said you said that. The fact that they can overcome the system doesn't really have any bearing on the conversation. It has no bearing on whether or not there is systemic racism. It's like you are complaining about taxes and someone responds, "it's OK, you can overcome. The Jews got rich despite taxes." Cool point.
 
Jews were enslaved, discriminated against longer. Not to mention the various attempts to exterminate them. They managed.
My biggest problem is the incessant whining from the black community. Shut up, man up, get an education, and go to work to better yourself, like the rest of us.
 
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