Systemic Racism

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Rasputin_Vol said:
But here is the significant difference between a corrupt athlete and a corrupt cop. A corrupt athlete doesn't have the power to take way your life, liberty and property. That is why they need to be held to a much higher standard than these random people you just mentioned.

With great power comes great responsibility.
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It's the same standard though. A cop doesn't have more or less of a right to kill people in the street than a citizen.

I think when people say cops should be held to a higher standard, they really mean cops shouldn't be held to a lower standard.

If you start making a claim that cops do not have the ability to defend themselves or engage in neccesary violence, I don't see who exactly is going to sign up for that, considering cops are people too and not robots.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
But here is the significant difference between a corrupt athlete and a corrupt cop. A corrupt athlete doesn't have the power to take way your life, liberty and property. That is why they need to be held to a much higher standard than these random people you just mentioned.

With great power comes great responsibility.
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What part of the beginning of the sentence did you miss? The point is if you think we are going to get rid of problems of life with political correctness then you are mistaken. Surely you are smarter than what you just portrayed.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I mentioned it in a post a few days ago, but what you are seeing is the ghetto-ization of America. Meaning, the perfect plan to destroy the black community was tested in the 1960s-1990s with liberalism, the break up of the family, decaying moral values and infestation of drugs. What you see out on these streets right now are those chickens coming home to roost. Now the plan is to destroy America, not just the black community. Unfortunately, a majority of black people do not realize that we are being used as pawns in this chess game and will be used as targets if it truly does ratchet up into a race war. Then, once the race war is over, the targets will then be turned on the other threats to society like middle class gun owners or ex-military.
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ZACKLY!
 
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Ten_Titans said:
It's the same standard though. A cop doesn't have more or less of a right to kill people in the street than a citizen.
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There are countless cases of police either not even being arrested/charged or given several days and weeks to be free before they have to turn themselves in after incidents. Meanwhile, if a civilian is involved in a shooting, he is arrested immediately 99 times out of 100.

Ten_Titans said:
I think when people say cops should be held to a higher standard, they really mean cops shouldn't be held to a lower standard.
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I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say here...

Ten_Titans said:
If you start making a claim that cops do not have the ability to defend themselves...
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Nobody said that.

Ten_Titans said:
...or engage in neccesary violence, I don't see who exactly is going to sign up for that, considering cops are people too and not robots.
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No reasonable person has said that.

Tell me WTF a cop defending himself or engaging in necessary violence has to do with the George Floyd case?
 
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BreatheUT said:
What part of the beginning of the sentence did you miss. The point is if you think we are going to get rid of problems of life with political correctness then you are mistaken. Surely you are smarter than what you just portrayed.
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I don't know, you tell me what you think I missed:

Thank you Ras. I believe we have a similar ethnic background. What I am hinting at is prevalent is a subjective measurement. For some prevalent could be as few as once while other could think prevalent has a totally different meaning. Is it 2% or 10% of the force if they are bad cops that make it prevalent issue?

There is no doubt that there needs to be continued hiring, training, technology and policy improvements within the police departments. This should be treated as priority but when partisan agendas across the board become the objective the the real goals are undermined.
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And BTW, I've never come on here trying to push a politically correct agenda for any of this. Go look through my posts. Not once have I called this George Floyd case a racial issue. I have consistently called it what it is, a police issue.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
There are countless cases of police either not even being arrested/charged or given several days and weeks to be free before they have to turn themselves in after incidents. Meanwhile, if a civilian is involved in a shooting, he is arrested immediately 99 times out of 100.

I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say here...


Nobody said that.


No reasonable person has said that.

Tell me WTF a cop defending himself or engaging in necessary violence has to do with the George Floyd case?
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You said cops should be held to a higher standard than a regular citizen.

I think that is a mischaracterization of the problem. I think what you really mean, is that cops should not be held to a lower standard than citizens.

Vague qualified immunity lets cops off the hook when they act outside their jurisdiction. This is an example of cops being held to a lower standard of justice than regular citizens.

I think saying "cops should be held to a higher standard" is not the correct way to formulate the argument, and I've seen that statement a lot. The implication of holding someone to a "higher standard" is that they would not be allowed to do things other people would be allowed to do. I don't think that is the argument you are making.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
You said cops should be held to a higher standard than a regular citizen.

I think that is a mischaracterization of the problem. I think what you really mean, is that cops should not be held to a lower standard than citizens.

Vague qualified immunity lets cops off the hook when they act outside their jurisdiction. This is an example of cops being held to a lower standard of justice than regular citizens.

I think saying "cops should be held to a higher standard" is not the correct way to formulate the argument, and I've seen that statement a lot. The implication of holding someone to a "higher standard" is that they would not be allowed to do things other people would be allowed to do. I don't think that is the argument you are making.
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OK, I'm not going into semantics with you. I think you know exactly what I am saying.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
OK, I'm not going into semantics with you. I think you know exactly what I am saying.
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I do. You can say it's semantics if you want, I think it's an important distinction. Especially considering there are plenty of people who would be perfectly willing to take away rights from cops, given the chance.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I don't know, you tell me what you think I missed:



And BTW, I've never come on here trying to push a politically correct agenda for any of this. Go look through my posts. Not once have I called this George Floyd case a racial issue. I have consistently called it what it is, a police issue.
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Ras I'm pointing to the part where I said the police has a greater responsibility as public servants.
 
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People aren’t going to like this, but here goes anyway.

Abortion is the most systematic form of racism which exists today. There are other forms...I can’t deny that, however abortion targets young black girls, helps to promote a fatherless society, and helps to curb the population of an entire race.

According to Robert Johnstons 2019 study (from 2017 CDC reported data): black babies are aborted at a rate of 34% compared to live births. Black babies account for about 13% of all births in the U.S. however black abortions account for about 35% of all abortions.

In many major cities 50% or more of black babies are aborted.

Most abortion clinics (in urban areas) are found in predominantly minority neighborhoods.

Margaret Sanger started Planned Parenthood....she was openly racist and spoke at ku klux klan meetings. She started this abortion scheme to curb the population of blacks in the U.S.....and unfortunately it’s still working today.

Black women are raped at a higher level than anyone, they are single “carrying” mothers more than anyone, and they have been preyed upon by a racist “abortion” system for generations.

Black women have been wronged by a system that encourages them to have abortions, and which tries to make them feel they don’t have options and many times these women feel pressured to have abortions.

A racist system, started by a racist woman, claiming they “help” women.....and helping to cause more than 1/3rd of all abortions by just 13% of the mothers.......SICK!
 
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volfanjustin said:
I only hate what you radical leftists have done to it. Why do you have so much white guilt? Why do you libs want to be victims?
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I haven't posted anything that would back up your claims about me. You just make it up as you go for anyone that disagrees with your radical views.

I can back up myself when speaking of you. You constantly refer to your fellow Americans as scum, bitches, etc. Your posts are factual examples

I've never shown a viewpoint that could be considered "radical left". Sorry. You're just too easy because of your perpetual ignorance at every level
 
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