George Floyd Protest/Riots

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Have any of the leftists said what the protests are about that are still going on?

The police officers have been arrested. The protesters have murdered some innocent people, got the police department in Minneapolis axed and the LA PD budget to be cut and that money to go to a terrorist organization in BLM.

What else? I'm afraid of the answer.
 
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Bigun said:
Have any of the leftists said what the protests are about that are still going on?

The police officers have been arrested. The protesters have murdered some innocent people, got the police department in Minneapolis axed and the LA PD budget to be cut and that money to go to a terrorist organization in BLM.

What else? I'm afraid of the answer.
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Probably making plans on moving into the suburbs and destroy as much of those as possible.
 
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Seen some posts about the children who organized the BLM March to Get Covid in Nashville.

Without fail, there is a comment "It's a shame children had to be the ones to do this."

Can anyone pin down the year we decided to let children(such as Greta) decide what the country/world is or isn't about? If my position was being organized and run by children I would be deeply concerned about why my message resonates with kids.

No one would take a child's advice about something high resolution like your career. Yet when it is about something low resolution and 1000x more complicated like national policy or national identity, we assume children not only can give solid advice, but are more aware of the truth than adults. Bizarro stuff.

The Daily Wire guys have been calling it the religion of systemic Racism. I never thought of it like that, but it is exactly what it is.

Chanting, kneeling, confessing your sins, confessing your support, getting visibly upset when people provide counter-evidence, the desire to proclaim it is obvious and requires no evidence, the belief that the solution is just everyone admitting they believe, passing off subjective experience as evidence...

It literally checks all the boxes. You can substitute a BLM protestor with an extremist Christian Evangelical and predict exactly what they are going to say and do. Including using the naivety of children as proof of their religion.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
This didnt age well

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It's totally different w/liberals when they hear Obama tells it like it is ...... rather than to hear a white conservative man/woman saying the same ..... exact words. A white conservative man/woman can say the same words as slowly as he does ..... but somehow it's all lies and the truth has been distorted to make it sound like the white person is a racist towards the looters & rioters doing the same kind of damage to a city.
 
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NCFisher said:
IOW, you're not libertarian at all. You don't like being challenged, "ban 'em".
You'd make a helluva Marxist, though.
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When did I say "ban 'em"? This is another strawman. I half-jokingly said we need a purge. IDC how it happens and I'm not gonna ask mods to do it. It was just a burn

Also, libertarianism doesn't oppose the idea of banning people/things from privately owned places, like VN. Ironically, you do not understand libertarianism.

You're wrong at every turn in every post. It's embarrassing
 
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Here's a thought. I think most would agree the three other cops should have spoken up and stopped Chauvin from killing Floyd. Why are the peaceful protesters not held to the same regard when it comes to stopping the violent protesters, or the looters? I've seen where some have spoken against it, but not the majority. Why haven't they stopped those trying to hijack their message?

Part of the divide in this nation is people have differing standards for those they see as "allies" as compared to those they see as "the enemy". Wrong is wrong. Whether it's your friend doing it, or your greatest enemy, wrong is wrong.
 
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Democrats have run Minneapolis for generations. Why is there still systemic racism?
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Is it too late to push back on the idea that the whole system is racist? Yeah I think it's too late.

The governments and all these businesses putting out statements fell for one the classic blunders.

Admission of guilt is the last step in a civil argument. Admission of guilt is the first step in a religion/cult.

If you take responsibility and ownership of a problem, it's on you to fix it. Good luck fixing a problem you can't prove exists.
 
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When did I say "ban 'em"? This is another strawman. I half-jokingly said we need a purge. IDC how it happens and I'm not gonna ask mods to do it. It was just a burn

Also, libertarianism doesn't oppose the idea of banning people/things from privately owned places, like VN. Ironically, you do not understand libertarianism.

You're wrong at every turn in every post. It's embarrassing
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Isn't wanting people to be purged from the forum banning them?

Yes, having voted for a number of libertarians and a consumer of Austrian economics, I understand the private vs. public argument. I'm stating that banning purging people over firm disagreements is not the refuge of intellect in either scenario. Quite the opposite.

So you would miss me, and I'm not wrong. Perfect!
 
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Fun coupon VOL said:
Democrats have run Minneapolis for generations. Why is there still systemic racism?
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This is straight truth.....but you know...let's march on the White House.

"A city runs its police department and other services; therefore, if there is so much 'systemic racism' in these organizations, why hasn't it been corrected over so many years under Democratic leaders?

"Why aren't these cities garden spots of racial tolerance, understanding, and virtue?"

"Minneapolis, Minn. has been under Democratic control since 1978. Chicago has been under Democratic control for 89 years; its present mayor is a black woman. Philadelphia has had Democratic mayors for 68 years; three of its last five mayors have been black men. Six of the last seven Atlanta, Ga., mayoral administrations were led by black Democratic mayors, and the present mayor is a black woman."
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
It's totally different w/liberals when they hear Obama tells it like it is ...... rather than to hear a white conservative man/woman saying the same ..... exact words. A white conservative man/woman can say the same words as slowly as he does ..... but somehow it's all lies and the truth has been distorted to make it sound like the white person is a racist towards the looters & rioters doing the same kind of damage to a city.
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Same is true if you go back and look at Clinton’s SOTU and other Democratic Senators speeches that include immigration reform and securing the border with Mexico.
 
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NCFisher said:
Isn't wanting people to be purged from the forum banning them?

Yes, having voted for a number of libertarians a consumer of Austrian economics, I understand the private vs. public argument. I'm stating that banning purging people over firm disagreements is not the refuge of intellect in either scenario. Quite the opposite.

So you would miss me, and I'm not wrong. Perfect!
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Are you seriously asking this?
 
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It's a rhetorical question, silly; of course purging and banning are the same (unless you calling for Marxist style purging - bang! bang!). Except you only want some purged, not have them banned. Or something.

We're fully synched now.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Very good points by George Korda of the KNS.
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I think is a bad idea to say "Black Democrats were in charge and didn't fix it" instead of "Black Democrats were in charge and didn't fix it because it doesn't actually exist".

Going along with the widespread delusion just as a cheap way to stick it to Democrats isn't a good idea.

There are people doing what Korda described, but it isn't everyone and I don't know if it is a majority. De Blasio got boo'd on stage the other day, and no one has been more woke than him.

The Dems are kneeling and saying how racist everything is because that has always worked before. If people actually hold them to their words, it isn't gonna be good. We are gonna start seeing some real dumb assery like disbanding police departments when they start implementing solutions to fake problems.
 
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Bigun said:
This is straight truth.....but you know...let's march on the White House.

"A city runs its police department and other services; therefore, if there is so much 'systemic racism' in these organizations, why hasn't it been corrected over so many years under Democratic leaders?

"Why aren't these cities garden spots of racial tolerance, understanding, and virtue?"

"Minneapolis, Minn. has been under Democratic control since 1978. Chicago has been under Democratic control for 89 years; its present mayor is a black woman. Philadelphia has had Democratic mayors for 68 years; three of its last five mayors have been black men. Six of the last seven Atlanta, Ga., mayoral administrations were led by black Democratic mayors, and the present mayor is a black woman."
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Why does it seem all the racial problems occur in the places where democrats are in control? Must be a total coincidence.....................
 
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KB5252 said:
Exactly, these are token gestures that mean nothing, they are condescending. The real solutions are complicated and will be very uncomfortable for both sides.
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This. I see 3 real solutions that will 100% work, none of which are going to give anyone a warm fuzzy.
 
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