George Floyd Protest/Riots

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allvol123 said:
Begging forgiveness for doing nothing wrong. Dont worry Drew, that will only eat away at your soul for decades.
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Imagine saying u don't agree with kneeling for the anthem and then being shamed publicly into apologizing. What kind of fkd up world are we in.
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
Yea i'd have 3 counts of malicious harming and probably worse...counting on you to post my bail
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That's what weak, inferior people do. They pick on those weaker than them. I can't stand that, it would send me back to my old ways. I've been incarcerated, if I'd have seen that I'd tell the jury the story and go back willingly if needed.
 
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theFallGuy said:
Imagine saying u don't agree with kneeling for the anthem and then being shamed publicly into apologizing. What kind of fkd up world are we in.
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I don't remember Kap or others apologizing for it. Again, it's his right to disagree and protest. Also, the right of the owners to disagree and make changes. Same with Brees.
 
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ETV said:
I don't remember Kap or others apologizing for it. Again, it's his right to disagree and protest. Also, the right of the owners to disagree and make changes. Same with Brees.
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exactly. Brees said nothing inflammatory and he's being treated like a criminal on social media. The groupthink is strong
 
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KB5252 said:
It rarely happens, this wasn't a racist killing, this was an excessive force issue. This happens to every race. We can't have riots every time someone gets killed by police. Especially considering some of these killings turned it to be completely justified. Ferguson was decimated, people lost their lives, for a false narrative! I can understand the emotional aspect of this killing. But cooler heads must prevail at some point. Burning it down just drives the two sides further apart.
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Well said.

I wouldn’t call it open racism, but I absolutely believe there is a racial bias that may not be intentional.

That said, I think the police excessive force issue is the bigger problem. Militarization is a big problem. Screening is a problem. Training is a problem. There are too many entitled, little man, soldier wannabe jack holes patrolling around that think they are untouchable. Even if it is only 5% of police, that is entirely too many.
 
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rjd970 said:
Well said.

I wouldn’t call it open racism, but I absolutely believe there is a racial bias that may not be intentional.

That said, I think the police excessive force issue is the bigger problem. Militarization is a big problem. Screening is a problem. Training is a problem. There are too many entitled, little man, soldier wannabe jack holes patrolling around that think they are untouchable. Even if it is only 5% of police, that is entirely too many.
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RJD, I genuinely believe you're a racist. Now prove to us that you aren't.
 
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rjd970 said:
Well said.

I wouldn’t call it open racism, but I absolutely believe there is a racial bias that may not be intentional.

That said, I think the police excessive force issue is the bigger problem. Militarization is a big problem. Screening is a problem. Training is a problem. There are too many entitled, little man, soldier wannabe jack holes patrolling around that think they are untouchable. Even if it is only 5% of police, that is entirely too many.
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Let’s not pretend there isn’t a level of violence and aggression needed to be a law enforcement officer. It’s not like they deal with model citizens on a daily basis and people cry racism or excessive use of force when they have to take down an armed suspect.
 
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rjd970 said:
Well said.

I wouldn’t call it open racism, but I absolutely believe there is a racial bias that may not be intentional.

That said, I think the police excessive force issue is the bigger problem. Militarization is a big problem. Screening is a problem. Training is a problem. There are too many entitled, little man, soldier wannabe jack holes patrolling around that think they are untouchable. Even if it is only 5% of police, that is entirely too many.
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Infiltrated.
 
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theFallGuy said:
exactly. Brees said nothing inflammatory and he's being treated like a criminal on social media. The groupthink is strong
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That also applies to both sides of the current protests. Depending upon ones position, you're either labeled a racist and white privileged male with no value on human life. The other side, you're a antifa sympathizer who's spoon fed by the MSM.

Sh#t is a mess.
 
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rjd970 said:
I wouldn’t call it open racism, but I absolutely believe there is a racial bias that may not be intentional.

That said, I think the police excessive force issue is the bigger problem. Militarization is a big problem. Screening is a problem. Training is a problem. There are too many entitled, little man, soldier wannabe jack holes patrolling around that think they are untouchable. Even if it is only 5% of police, that is entirely too many.
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I agree there is a racial aspect probably better described as prejudice. Because prejudice is human nature. I've said it before when you deal with the dregs of society it's easy to project that disturbing call or really horrible person into the next call and you lose/forget what drew you to the job. Combine that with being overworked and the other stresses of the job and if you aren't vigilant ami otherwise decent person can become something else.

Obviously I don't know the guy so I don't know what his beliefs are. But I do believe my statement above is the most likely scenario for most "rogue" officers because you see it in officers of every race.
 
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allvol123 said:
Agreed. If the NFL goes full kneel, they might should just cancel the season.
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I don't care who it is. I don't care if they say some crazy insensitive ****. I don't care if they come out and say some nasty stuff about my mom.

I want one of these celebrities (who isn't already in the conservative bubble) to tell the Twitter mob to suck their ballsack... And just see what happens. Like a stress test. I wanna see how long before the mob moves on.
 
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Candace Owens: ‘I Do Not Support George Floyd And The Media Depiction Of Him As A Martyr For Black America’

In an explosive 18-minute video posted on YouTube Thursday, conservative commentator Candace Owens explains why she does “not support George Floyd and the media depiction of him as a martyr for black America.”

During her at-times impassioned video post (below), Owens, who is African-American, criticizes what she describes as the African-American community “cater[ing] to the bottom denominator of our society” by “demand[ing] support and justice for the people in our community that are up to no good.” The holding up of Floyd as a “martyr for black America,” she suggests, is an example of this trend that she forcefully rejects.

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Owens repeatedly stresses that by highlighting Floyd’s criminal record she is not attempting to justify former Officer Derek Chauvin’s actions, which she thoroughly condemns; rather, she is arguing that Floyd should not be held up as some form of “martyr” or role model for the black community.

Citing conservative African-American author and columnist Shelby Steele, Owens says the black community is “unique in that we are the only people that fight and scream and demand support and justice for the people in our community that are up to no good.” While she strongly condemns Chauvin’s actions and says the family of George Floyd “deserves justice for the way that he died,” Owens states, “I also am not going to accept the narrative that this is the best the black community has to offer.”

Candace Owens: ‘I Do Not Support George Floyd And The Media Depiction Of Him As A Martyr For Black America’
 
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37L1 said:
Over charging/multiple charges puts pressure on the defendant to make a deal.

The system is set up to make deals.

There are not enough courtrooms, judges, or prosecutors to be able to take every case to trial. Not even close. Judges, as a matter of routine, encourage parties to negotiate a plea.

I don't know the exact percentage of cases that are plead out but it would surprise me if it were less than 90%.

Some links on the subject.

Only 2% of federal criminal defendants go to trial, and most who do are found guilty

Most criminal cases end in plea bargains, not trials

How many criminal cases actually go to trial?

The Rise of Plea Bargains and Fall of the Right to Trial | ACS
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My buddy does public defense and if the alphabet boys are providing evidence for your charges, it's plea time. Because they have you dead to rights.
 
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