George Floyd Protest/Riots

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ETV said:
Maybe, but one of the attackers appeared to be white (kid w/ skateboard) so I don't believe that will stick. Considering the circumstances and PC culture of Dallas lately, I don't think that will be the case.
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I’d expect everybody skates. Dallas is a political and law enforcement **** hole right now.
 
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allvol123 said:
The funny thing is people hailed Killer Mike as an example.

Are you effing kidding me?

A guy that goes by Killer Mike walks onto stage in the most serious moment of his life with a "Kill The Masters" t shirt. Is this a joke?

THIS is an example of a prominent black man stepping up. If so, they will never progress.
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I agree not the best leader, but it shows a leadership gap. Keep in mind the mayor thought this was a good idea. The same person that "should" be in Biden's short list according to some. Sadly the crowd she was trying to appeal to probably looks to the Killer Mike's for inspiration. He obviously is knowledgeable but doesn't totally get the podium he is own that could make a difference in changing generational attitudes about the outlook on life.

Everyone is not going to become a Barak Obama, Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, Ludacris, star athlete etc but they can become a productive husband, wife, father, mother, citizen or etc.
 
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KB5252 said:
Because similar situations have played out with black law enforcement officers. They are not arrested on the spot virtually every time.
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I saw the footage from Baltimore last night. A Black officer was defending his fellow officer. While detaining a large black woman, she had become aggressive and began striking the white officer, with closed fists to the face. The white officer kept his emotions in check and attempted to subdue her or protect himself by covering. The assisting black officer witnessed it and put an end to her behavior by one punch to her face.

Not one word of outrage from the media. Not one.
 
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There has been violent protests since America has started when change is needed. Boston Tea party, Revolutionary war, Civil war, Civil rights, etc. etc. I know this is the Trump board, but he has been pushing those buttons since he got elected. Peaceful protests from NFL players and they are called SOB's. Charlottesville, etc. We've been locked in with a badly lead pandemic and then two ugly killings. It was bound to happen. You can't keep lighting dynamite and not expect an explosion.

All lives matter, for sure-- but from their perspective, black lives seem to matter less. Black on black killing? Yes, there is much of this--but they say they are prosecuted for it. No matter the crime, the jail time is longer than same crimes when a white does them.. Minority of population--majority of prisoners.. Blue Lives matter-- YES!! So many great cops and we couldn't do without them-- but when black communities complain about a bad seed, they say little or nothing is done in many cases. Many are covered up with little consequence unless someone has a recording.. Even recording where there is an obvious crime we hear that the victim had heart trouble or high blood pressure with this guy who had a knee on his throat for nine minutes. Or the guy was looking into the house construction, must be stealing --- Rodney King.. etc. etc. and so on. A few weeks ago, a bunch of white folks with guns stormed the state capitals and coughed on cops. No tear gas was used.

Unless you walk in a man's shoes, I am not going to tell them that their grievances are wrong. I just wish that it wasn't violent. Pray for this nation and hope things can get better. 2020 has sucked.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
The only people who would consider him a prominent black would be right wing conservatives. To most of us in this country, at least those of us in the center, he's completely irrelevant.
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The mayor of Atlanta invited him as a guest speaker to her press conference to speak to the rioters. Until then I had never heard of him but he was important to the democrat mayor. Then he went on a tantrum that included an emotional positive message, laced profanities, some disturbing thoughts.
 
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ETV said:
I saw the footage from Baltimore last night. A Black officer was defending his fellow officer. While detaining a large black woman, she had become aggressive and began striking the white officer, with closed fists to the face. The white officer kept his emotions in check and attempted to subdue her or protect himself by covering. The assisting black officer witnessed it and put an end to her behavior by one punch to her face.

Not one word of outrage from the media. Not one.
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She deserved it unfortunately.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
The only people who would consider him a prominent black would be right wing conservatives. To most of us in this country, at least those of us in the center, he's completely irrelevant.
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I must be in the center because I’ve never heard of him or seen him before in my life .
 
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BreatheUT said:
I agree not the best leader, but it shows a leadership gap. Keep in mind the mayor thought this was a good idea. The same person that "should" be in Biden's short list according to some. Sadly the crowd she was trying to appeal to probably looks to the Killer Mike's for inspiration. He obviously is knowledgeable but doesn't totally get the podium he is own that could make a difference in changing generational attitudes about the outlook on life.

Everyone is not going to become a Barak Obama, Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, Ludacris, star athlete etc but they can become a productive husband, wife, father, mother, citizen or etc.
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I agree with you about the Atlanta mayor. That being said, we have a President who knows NOTHING about being a leader. If I were you I wouldn't be frowning upon her VP aspirations and then at the same time, claiming you agree with a President who has absolutely no credibility
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I’m saying that don’t blame others for choices that you make in life. And me calling him a drug addict is a fact not some kind of “mean statement”
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So you're saying the policeman that killed him by choking him for 9 minutes shouldn't be blamed for killing him because he was a drug addict?
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
I agree with you about the Atlanta mayor. That being said, we have a President who knows NOTHING about being a leader. If I were you I wouldn't be frowning upon her VP aspirations and then at the same time, claiming you agree with a President who has absolutely no credibility
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After reading a number of your posts in this thread, I find it extremely comforting that you are an expert here on this message board.
 
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JCP201 said:
There has been violent protests since America has started when change is needed. Boston Tea party, Revolutionary war, Civil war, Civil rights, etc. etc. I know this is the Trump board, but he has been pushing those buttons since he got elected. Peaceful protests from NFL players and they are called SOB's. Charlottesville, etc. We've been locked in with a badly lead pandemic and then two ugly killings. It was bound to happen. You can't keep lighting dynamite and not expect an explosion.

All lives matter, for sure-- but from their perspective, black lives seem to matter less. Black on black killing? Yes, there is much of this--but they say they are prosecuted for it. No matter the crime, the jail time is longer than same crimes when a white does them.. Minority of population--majority of prisoners.. Blue Lives matter-- YES!! So many great cops and we couldn't do without them-- but when black communities complain about a bad seed, they say little or nothing is done in many cases. Many are covered up with little consequence unless someone has a recording.. Even recording where there is an obvious crime we hear that the victim had heart trouble or high blood pressure with this guy who had a knee on his throat for nine minutes. Or the guy was looking into the house construction, must be stealing --- Rodney King.. etc. etc. and so on. A few weeks ago, a bunch of white folks with guns stormed the state capitals and coughed on cops. No tear gas was used.

Unless you walk in a man's shoes, I am not going to tell them that their grievances are wrong. I just wish that it wasn't violent. Pray for this nation and hope things can get better. 2020 has sucked.
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Jail time is not longer just because someone is black 🙄 and they also are not the majority of prisoners in jail

no one at Michigan “coughed on cops” or broke any laws
their grievances ARE wrong and burning stores, assaulting defenseless people in cars and wheelchairs and looting are criminal behavior not justified in ANY way shape or form except to apologists and enablers
 
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JCP201 said:
There has been violent protests since America has started when change is needed. Boston Tea party, Revolutionary war, Civil war, Civil rights, etc. etc. I know this is the Trump board, but he has been pushing those buttons since he got elected. Peaceful protests from NFL players and they are called SOB's. Charlottesville, etc. We've been locked in with a badly lead pandemic and then two ugly killings. It was bound to happen. You can't keep lighting dynamite and not expect an explosion.

All lives matter, for sure-- but from their perspective, black lives seem to matter less. Black on black killing? Yes, there is much of this--but they say they are prosecuted for it. No matter the crime, the jail time is longer than same crimes when a white does them.. Minority of population--majority of prisoners.. Blue Lives matter-- YES!! So many great cops and we couldn't do without them-- but when black communities complain about a bad seed, they say little or nothing is done in many cases. Many are covered up with little consequence unless someone has a recording.. Even recording where there is an obvious crime we hear that the victim had heart trouble or high blood pressure with this guy who had a knee on his throat for nine minutes. Or the guy was looking into the house construction, must be stealing --- Rodney King.. etc. etc. and so on. A few weeks ago, a bunch of white folks with guns stormed the state capitals and coughed on cops. No tear gas was used.

Unless you walk in a man's shoes, I am not going to tell them that their grievances are wrong. I just wish that it wasn't violent. Pray for this nation and hope things can get better. 2020 has sucked.
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I’m cherry picking here , but do you know why nothing was done to those protesters that walked into their state capital with guns ? Because nothing they did was against the law . They were allowed to peaceful assemble in their state capital with firearms .. by law .
 
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0nelilreb said:
I’m cherry picking here , but do you know why nothing was done to those protesters that walked into their state capital with guns ? Because nothing they did was against the law . They were allowed to peaceful assemble in their state capital with firearms .. by law .
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Do you think if same thing happened and they were black (with guns) that it would be okay? Like I said, I don't walk in another man's shoes, but they don't think they would be treated the same.
 
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JCP201 said:
Do you think if same thing happened and they were black (with guns) that it would be okay? Like I said, I don't walk in another man's shoes, but they don't think they would be treated the same.
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Yes they would. Just like the black panthers were treated in GA recently. It’s about following the laws, not race
 
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0nelilreb said:
I’m cherry picking here , but do you know why nothing was done to those protesters that walked into their state capital with guns ? Because nothing they did was against the law . They were allowed to peaceful assemble in their state capital with firearms .. by law .
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....and didn't destroy anything and went home.
 
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JCP201 said:
Do you think if same thing happened and they were black (with guns) that it would be okay? Like I said, I don't walk in another man's shoes, but they don't think they would be treated the same.
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Of course it’s ok . It’s the law of their state . The law wasn’t set up just for the white people that own firearms to be able to do it . Skin color shouldn’t be a determining factor if they have a peaceful protest like those people did .
 
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Bigun said:
Thats why I try and be on the lake to fish between 5:30-6:00 and back at the dock no later than 11am. After that, especially on Saturday's, its like traffic after a football game.
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Yep during warm water months have your ass on the water at sunrise and your boat on the trailer at noon just as all the asshats are rolling out.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Jail time is not longer just because someone is black 🙄 and they also are not the majority of prisoners in jail

no one at Michigan “coughed on cops” or broke any laws
their grievances ARE wrong and burning stores, assaulting defenseless people in cars and wheelchairs and looting are criminal behavior not justified in ANY way shape or form except to apologists and enablers
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It's getting better

The gap between the number of blacks and whites in prison is shrinking
 
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