George Floyd Protest/Riots

[Rickyvol77]

Normal people can get angry, too.

And most normal people have emotional intelligence and can control their anger. Some low IQ ones not so much

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

This is not a rare occurrence. WTF are you talking about. Police have been acting out of control and on an elevated level for over a decade. And I'm aware of the fact that the police are not just targeting black people. They are attacking citizens as a whole on some of the most petty of infractions and laws out there.

Your cynical comment about not arresting minorities and special zones is either you trolling or you really don't get it. It is really simple to understand. Don't kill a person when you arrest them.

The answer is simple. Police nationwide do not know how to arrest and detain people without putting the lives of the person in danger. Also, the police/LEOs have far more protection and special privileges when it comes to them assaulting or killing a civilian than normal citizens would have if they were engaged in these crimes. Lastly, the militarization of our police force, the wars on terror and drugs and the use of LEOs to drive revenue (writing tickets/citations) is out of control and it does not do anything to build a relationship between themselves and the people they are allegedly serving.

We're apparently looking at two different realities. I was raised in a time when police really did beat confessions out of people, carry drop guns, plant evidence, crack skulls, etc. We've come a looong way. The actual incidents of nonviolent people being killed by police are rare. That's just a fact. Neither one of us is going to change the other's mind on this so I'm probably done with the discussion but out of respect I will read whatever you post in response.

 

[Rickyvol77]

It’s not letting the officer off the hook. It’s saying if Floyd wasn’t doing what he was doing that brought about the interaction then he wouldn’t have been in that situation.

That doesn’t make the officers actions right. Or acceptable.

Exactly

 

[37L1]

Normal people can get angry, too.

So you think the sole or even the main motivation for the looting and burning is anger? That makes it reasonable?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I mean this culture needs some serious self reflection. This isnt sporadic cases. This is thousands of people that are completely ok with theft. THOUSANDS.

And across racial lines, also. So just placing the blame on one group misses the entire picture.

America is a materialistic, narcissistic country right now. We can point our fingers at the depraved people wondering our city streets like zombies and say they are the bad guys. But if you go further up the socio-economic ladder, we see signs of our materialistic, superficial and carnal nature in other groups. McMansions, trying to impress the Jones, buying homes, cars and boats we can't afford, raising kids to be just as depraved as their parents...

America has a spiritual/moral problem that has also been revealed. And again, the fact that you have multicultural groups of people on the streets, not just minority communities, should be a wake up call to the suburbanites and the Red State folk in the backwoods. We have lost or way.

 

[Rickyvol77]

To think these protests/riots are just about what occurred in MN is naive. We have an epidemic of police brutality in this country.

False. True cases of police brutality are very low; the media tries to say otherwise but facts are facts

 

[volfanjustin]

I haven’t seen any of these fraud SJW athletes or Hollywood types be outraged over this black life. Not all black lives matter

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The issue I have is the MAGA hat incident was compared to a woman just being out in a normal situation. Obviously, this is not a normal situation with the riots.

Let me be clear, neither situation is right, but one is clearly different than the other, no matter what the MAGA snowflakes say.

I didn't read it that way. But OK. But even in a normal situation, at the very least, she will get cat calls, which is now considered abuse. So even then, there is room to victim blame.

 

[ETV]

To think these protests/riots are just about what occurred in MN is naive. We have an epidemic of police brutality in this country.

Isn't that what has set this off? The MSM keeps pushing that and with every guest interviewed, it all goes back to what that officer did.

 

[Purple Tiger]

Sure. I got angry watching the video of Floyd’s death. Now I’m angry watching thugs loot and destroy people’s livelihoods and groups of 20 people assault one guy because he has a red hat on. But I’m not going to go act like a complete idiot and cause harm to others because I’m angry. I’m an adult and know how to handle myself and care and respect others as well.

To walk into a mob of angry AA protestors wearing a MAGA hat is insanity. given the inflammatory things Trump has said about this situation. The guy might as well have been wearing a klan outfit or nazi uniform. Note to you: people don't like Trump, and black people especially don't like Trump.

 

[rjd970]

I didn't read it that way. But OK. But even in a normal situation, at the very least, she will get cat calls, which is ow considered abuse. So even then, there is room to victim blame.

You are going to have to explain how anything I have said on the subject is any different than this:

Unfortunately, that would be called victim blaming.

Obviously, the guy has the right to wear the hat, but there are consequences for going to a riot in 2020 wearing one. That is not me justifying the violence against him. That is me just saying that one of the weapons a person needs for self-defense is wisdom.

Maybe I haven’t verbalized it correctly or whatever, but my stance is no different, yet I get attacked by the snowflakes for it. Which is fine, I care not, but I’m not going be attacked for a position I don’t have.

 

[allvol123]

I haven’t seen any of these fraud SJW athletes or Hollywood types be outraged over this black life. Not all black lives matter

And this is a problem. Not enough prominent black people that are respected in the black community will call out other blacks.

Instead, the "victim" and "disenfranchised" angles will be played.

 

[Purple Tiger]

Isn't that what has set this off? The MSM keeps pushing that and with every guest interviewed, it all goes back to what that officer did.

Floyd's death may have triggered it, but the anger is about more than him.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

We're apparently looking at two different realities. I was raised in a time when police really did beat confessions out of people, carry drop guns, plant evidence, crack skulls, etc. We've come a looong way. The actual incidents of nonviolent people being killed by police are rare. That's just a fact. Neither one of us is going to change the other's mind on this so I'm probably done with the discussion but out of respect I will read whatever you post in response.

I just don't know how to respond to that.

 

[Purple Tiger]

False. True cases of police brutality are very low; the media tries to say otherwise but facts are facts

Go tell that to a black activist or an angry protester.

 

[TheDeeble]

They attempt to make the officer’s actions less wrong, and/or Floyd’s death more justified, otherwise there’s no point at all in victim-blaming like that

Maybe in your head. But that’s not what’s happening. I’ve actually said the opposite of what you’re saying. Floyd’s death isn’t justified.

Floyd bears some responsibility for being in that situation. If he wasn’t doing what he was doing prior to that the officer wouldnt have had any reason to interact with him. That’s not absolving the officer of any wrongdoing that happened after that.

 

[rjd970]

False. True cases of police brutality are very low; the media tries to say otherwise but facts are facts

What facts? I’m not saying you are lying, but how do we know how low true cases of police brutality are?

 

[Purple Tiger]

And most normal people have emotional intelligence and can control their anger. Some low IQ ones not so much

Most but not all.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Go tell that to a black activist or an angry protester.

Just because someone is stupid and ignorant of facts doesn’t mean anything. They don’t have the intelligence to comprehend, they only know what they “know”

 

[Rickyvol77]

What facts? I’m not saying you are lying, but how do we know how low true cases of police brutality are?

Because the FBI and CDC and nearly every major department keep stats on these things.

 

[NashVol11]

When I get angry I don’t burn **** down or steal. That’s not a normal reaction to an emotion we all have.

Fair to an extent, but in America people burn **** down and steal for things like the Eagles winning the SB

 

[Purple Tiger]

Just because someone is stupid and ignorant of facts doesn’t mean anything. They don’t have the intelligence to comprehend, they only know what they “know”

If facts are facts, then you should have no fear presenting your sound arguments to those folks.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Fair to an extent, but in America people burn **** down and steal for things like the Eagles winning the SB

And those criminals are idiots too

 

[37L1]

Fair to an extent, but in America people burn **** down and steal for things like the Eagles winning the SB

Any excuse will do for some.

 

[Rickyvol77]

If facts are facts, then you should have no fear presenting your sound arguments to those folks.

Ever try to explain sociological facts and statistic trends to a 3 year old? That’s the same level you are working with here