George Floyd Protest/Riots

[615vols]

Maybe when certain law enforcement statistics cease being so lopsided.

Which ones?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Well, they are put down much more often than they succeed no?

It is an extreme measure. Extreme measures are often employed because chances of success are inherently low.

 

[Vol737]

And then you have this kind of nonsensical racist rhetoric

CNN's Van Jones: "Even the most well-intentioned white person has a virus in his or her brain"

Van is completely devoid of any rational thought. He IS the virus.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Maybe when certain law enforcement statistics cease being so lopsided.

They aren't when you control for the proper demographic differences.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Which ones?

One example I read a couple of years ago was that black or hispanic drivers were 4x more likely than whites to be searched after being pulled over. That was surmised from actual police data.

 

[KB5252]

I try to see that. But can't get totally on board. I get tired of the "I'm a mother of a black child" bit, by the mayor.

People just need to drop the coloring.

I agree, but if you are a person of color you'd be remiss if you didn't use that to relate. Beyond that they've said the right things. Especially considering the history of poor public relations they've dealt with historically.

 

[C-south]

One example I read a couple of years ago was that black or hispanic drivers were 4x more likely than whites to be searched after being pulled over. That was surmised from actual police data.

Again, maybe that’s pointing to another issue. An issue nobody wants to address.

 

[allvol123]

I agree, but if you are a person of color you'd be remiss if you didn't use that to relate. Beyond that they've said the right things. Especially considering the history of poor public relations they've dealt with historically.

I just cant accept it.

We are either together or separated. There is justice. Not black justice or white justice or brown.

Leadership should be committed to that idea.

That messaging needs to flow from the top.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

And then you have this kind of nonsensical racist rhetoric

CNN's Van Jones: "Even the most well-intentioned white person has a virus in his or her brain"

This is the kind of **** that fuels more unnecessary divisiveness. There are legitimate arguments to make that systematic oppression exists. This is 100% not one of them.

 

[volbeast33]

Maybe when certain law enforcement statistics cease being so lopsided.

Here is a statistic that I found interesting that does not involve the police.... it stated between 2007-2018 260,000 African Americans were treated at the hospital for non-lethal gun wounds while only 77,000 white Americans..... do you not think it could be an issue more with certain communities?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Again, maybe that’s pointing to another issue. An issue nobody wants to address.

Enlighten us and say it.

I doubt you be policed by the mods if you're giving some sort of possibility for the objective sake of the discussion.

 

[Rickyvol77]

It worked as far as ending Jim Crow. I doubt the goals ended there.

We still live in a very divisive country when it comes to race.

Why do you think that is

 

[615vols]

One example I read a couple of years ago was that black or hispanic drivers were 4x more likely than whites to be searched after being pulled over. That was surmised from actual police data.

Ok, and did what you read a couple years ago include any sort of reasoning for the searches? Or are we to just jump to the assumption that it is solely based upon race?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Why do you think that is

Well, for one the figurehead of the Civil Rights movement was murdered.

 

[Ten_Titans]

One example I read a couple of years ago was that black or hispanic drivers were 4x more likely than whites to be searched after being pulled over. That was surmised from actual police data.

Doesn't account for the reason the car was pulled over, as argued by the LAPD, who reviewed their procedure and argued there was no racial profiling.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Ok, and did what you read a couple years ago include any sort of reasoning for the searches? Or are we to just jump to the assumption that it is solely based upon race?

It merely presented the data.

Something to the tune of 3% of white motorists were searched. Then I believe it went on to say 11% of black motorists and 9% of Hispanic motorists.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Doesn't account for the reason the car was pulled over, as argued by the LAPD, who reviewed their procedure and argued there was no racial profiling.

Ah, the LAPD cleared themselves. Good.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Ah, the LAPD cleared themselves. Good.

Now we're getting somewhere. So you believe these police departments do have a super secret explicit policy to be racist?

 

[KB5252]

Now we're getting somewhere. So you believe these police departments do have a super secret explicit policy to be racist?

You spelled super cereal wrong

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Now we're getting somewhere. So you believe these police departments do have a super secret explicit policy to be racist?

My cousin is a cop. It's certainly not something officially trained and it's not as widespread as some would say, but "racial profiling isn't real... but it works" is 100% a real thing.

 

[C-south]

Enlighten us and say it.

I doubt you be policed by the mods if you're giving some sort of possibility for the objective sake of the discussion.

What would they police? Blacks and Hispanics commit a lot of crimes, have a lot of interaction with law enforcement, and give law enforcement a lot of reasons to escalate the situation. The slums of Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, LA, ATL, etc will give you more than enough data to realize it.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Maybe when certain law enforcement statistics cease being so lopsided.

They aren’t excepted in liberal circle myths

 

[C-south]

My cousin is a cop. It's certainly not something officially trained and it's not as widespread as some would say, but "racial profiling isn't real... but it works" is 100% a real thing.

Where do cops tend to focus their attention? Crime ridden areas? Call it a coincidence.

 

[KB5252]

My cousin is a cop. It's certainly not something officially trained and it's not as widespread as some would say, but "racial profiling isn't real... but it works" is 100% a real thing.

Why does it work?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

What would they police? Blacks and Hispanics commit a lot of crimes, have a lot of interaction with law enforcement, and give law enforcement a lot of reasons to escalate the situation. The slums of Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, LA, ATL, etc will give you more than enough data to realize it.

Well I *did* have to coax you into saying it.


Poor people commit a lot of crimes. There are a higher percentage of poor black and Hispanic people within their respective demographics than poor white people in theirs.