George Floyd Protest/Riots

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C-south said:
Oh please spare me that bs. Half the people hate the man NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES OR WOULD DO. It’s a proven fact that it doesn’t matter what action is taken or what is said in these instances it’s just an opportunity burn down a few cities and for some to get some free stuff.
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poor, mistreated billionaire potus

You don't understand what a fact is. He is the potus and doesn't even try. That's a fact
 
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allvol123 said:
So now methods are tolerable if they result in effectiveness. I dont condone the riot, but it helped achieve a goal, so it was ok.

Uh, no.
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Are you capable of responding without making assumptions about what I believe? Understanding and acknowledging why and that something is effective is wholly different from condoning it.

I think you're a smart guy but you could do yourself a favor by thinking outside of the box occasionally.
 
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Septic said:
Are you capable of responding without making assumptions about what I believe? Understanding and acknowledging why and that something is effective is wholly different from condoning it.

I think you're a smart guy but you could do yourself a favor by thinking outside of the box occasionally.
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Tell me thought I need to embrace here.
 
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utvolpj said:
poor, mistreated billionaire potus

You don't understand what a fact is. He is the potus and doesn't even try. That's a fact
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Sure he does but you’re he should take even more aggressive steps and prosecute everyone caught looting and rioting to the fullest extent of the law.
 
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Septic said:
People are upset at the way they are protesting. Again, I'm waiting for someone to make a convincing argument that it's not a valid form of protest when property being destroyed gets people more fired up than people being murdered by people sworn to protect and serve. I'm making the inconvenient argument that if it's getting your attention, it's effective.
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It already had our attention, and now the message is lost because normal Americans are turned off by crimes
 
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C-south said:
Sure he does but you’re he should take even more aggressive steps and prosecute everyone caught looting and rioting to the fullest extent of the law.
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Who said that? I said he needs to lead the country since that's his actual job
 
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Septic said:
LOL, suddenly i'm supposed to infer what you 'really' meant moments after you conflating outrage over an unrelated, dissimilar tragedy as opposed to systemic brutality towards black folks?
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I actually admit I make a bunch of mistakes unlike your perfect self. My original post referenced violence. And I already discussed the numerous cases of brutality, so they are similar if not the same.

Orangeburst said:
Why not Professor? I see injustice and it needs to be remedied with violence.
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The only thing these riots are "effectively" doing is altering my beliefs on the George Floyd situation. I started out thinking this cop deserves murder charges (he still does) but now out of contempt for these acts of vandalism I find myself thinking the cop being found not guilty would be a poetic slap in their face that wouldn't bother me.
 
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Septic said:
If any of those weekend warriors were issued a single round of ammo, i'd be shocked. The national guard is good for filling sandbags and handing out food and water, a security force, they are absolutely not.
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That’s a damn lie. I can attest that the ANG flew more sorties, on time than any active duty airframe. Active duty’s equipment was always broke and they’d ask the guard guys to assist in troubleshooting and even repairing because of lack of experience.
Fact is ..these old mechanics knowledge is priceless compared to a young inexperienced mechanic.
 
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jcvols24 said:
The only thing these riots are "effectively" doing is altering my beliefs on the George Floyd situation. I started out thinking this cop deserves murder charges (he still does) but now out of contempt for these acts of vandalism I find myself thinking the cop being found not guilty would be a poetic slap in their face that wouldn't bother me.
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Wow that's truly pathetic.
 
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AirVol said:
That’s a damn lie. I can attest that the ANG flew more sorties, on time than any active duty airframe. Active duty’s equipment was always broke and they’d ask the guard guys to assist in troubleshooting and even repairing because of lack of experience.
Fact is ..these old mechanics knowledge is priceless compared to a young inexperienced mechanic.
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Apparently the skill gap in rehydrating powdered eggs is huge between AD and NG.
 
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utvolpj said:
Every time this potus is given a chance to lead the country he fails. He chooses to divide and rally the troops for an election over communicating to all people he governs. I don't really know why I expect anything different at this point though.
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You act as if he's the only one ever guilty of this.

Speaking to reporters earlier in Warsaw, Poland, where he is attending a NATO meeting, Obama on Friday called the Dallas shooting a "wrenching reminder of the sacrifices" law enforcement makes for the American people, but also remarked "that when people are armed with powerful weapons, unfortunately it makes it more deadly and more tragic, and in the days ahead we are going to have to consider those realities as well."
BHO - 2016.

Seems he's inserting divisive remarks about gun control when the focus should have been directed elsewhere.

Other remarks from Barry that the left refuses to view as divisive:

1. Call all opponents of same-sex marriage bigots
2. Call the Pro-Life movement a "War on Women"
3. Call all immigration enforcement advocates racists
4. Call the GOP the enemy of Hispanics

Would you like to know more?
 
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jcvols24 said:
The only thing these riots are "effectively" doing is altering my beliefs on the George Floyd situation. I started out thinking this cop deserves murder charges (he still does) but now out of contempt for these acts of vandalism I find myself thinking the cop being found not guilty would be a poetic slap in their face that wouldn't bother me.
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Anything less than the cops execution is going to trigger the animals.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Did you listen to the speech , have you listened to any of his speeches ? MLK did not promote violence .
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I've listened to plenty. His stance on riots was largely that they are a symptom of our failures as a country, and that we should keep the focus on those failures. That has generally not been the most popular stance in this thread.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Anything less than the cops execution is going to trigger the animals.
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Truth.

At this point it is a choice of do you want legitimate justice that likely brings collateral damage. Or do you want to sacrifice one human, and bastardize justice to keep things moving forward.
 
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jcvols24 said:
The only thing these riots are "effectively" doing is altering my beliefs on the George Floyd situation. I started out thinking this cop deserves murder charges (he still does) but now out of contempt for these acts of vandalism I find myself thinking the cop being found not guilty would be a poetic slap in their face that wouldn't bother me.
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This is Exhibit A of my point from earlier lol. People who think like this ^ weren't that upset at the murder in the first place
 
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