George Floyd Protest/Riots

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KB5252 said:
If it had stated asphyxiation that would be damning IMO. It appears he was having a medical episode, the officers actions at best contributed at worst caused it, it'll be interesting too see what other info comes it with the full exam results.
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cmon - there's no way to say that the officer didn't cause his death regardless of his condition
 
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volinbham said:
cmon - there's no way to say that the officer didn't cause his death regardless of his condition
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If he ingested drugs that could very well cause a cardiac event. I don't know if that's what happened or not, neither do you by the way, which is why I stated at best contributed at worst caused.

If you asked me what I thought happened based in what we do know I'd give this answer. I think the officer most likely caused this to happen, it wasn't necessary and against policy. That there victim was likely under the influence and that contributed. It would take bombshell info from the examiner to consider that the officer wasnt the cause and only a contributer, such as the scenario I provided in the opening.
 
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allvol123 said:
Sure he'll jump all over reading it.
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I didn't read the whole thing but this wasn't too far into it.

The study differentiated that there was no statistical differences in police shootings between blacks and whites, but also offered that the data may not be complete and selectively offered by the departments.

What it did say...

The results obtained using these data are informative and, in some cases, startling. Using data on NYC’s Stop and Frisk program, we demonstrate that on non-lethal uses of force – putting hands on civilians (which includes slapping or grabbing) or pushing individuals into a wall or onto the ground, there are large racial differences. In the raw data, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to have an interaction with police which involves any use of force.

Interestingly, as the intensity of force increases (e.g. handcuffing civilians without arrest, drawing or pointing a weapon, or using pepper spray or a baton), the probability that any civilian is subjected to such treatment is small, but the racial difference remains surprisingly constant. For instance, 0.26 percent of interactions between police and civilians involve an officer drawing a weapon; 0.02 percent involve using a baton. These are rare events. Yet, the results indicate that they are significantly more rare for whites than blacks. In the raw data, blacks are 21.3 percent more likely to be involved in an interaction with police in which at least a weapon is drawn than whites and the difference is statistically significant.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
People want justice, correct? Derek Chauvin has been charged and arrested, correct? So.....What am I missing here?

To me it’s turned into a bunch of selfish mother****ers trying to cause chaos, burn some businesses and get some free $hit and now the story has become about them .
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Justice won't be served until he's doing time.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
So keep burning $hit and hope they expedite the trial?
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Yep.

Between this and the attempted cover-up of the McMicheals murder of Arbery in Georgia, this country is a powder keg. Our elected leaders should refrain from flicking matches.
 
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I am always amazed at the fact that for the most part they are destroying the infrastructure of their own community.

It would be justified if not one grocery store, not one pharmacy, no restaurants or any other business that has been destroyed is rebuilt or replaced.
 
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Septic said:
Yep.

Between this and the attempted cover-up of the McMicheals murder of Arbery in Georgia, this country is a powder keg. Our elected leaders should refrain from flicking matches.
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I agree. I think the Mayor of Atlanta did a tremendous job speaking tonight to her fellow citizens as candidly as she did. I don’t think politicians are the only ones fanning the flames or flicking matches. I’m guessing the news anchors at CNN didn’t mind the police too much tonight when they needed them.
 
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Septic said:
I mean there's literal video of both murders, so...
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Let's play Devil's Advocate with this latest case.

If the medical examiner finds that the guy injested cocaine and it caused a cardiac event would that change your opinion?

What if they expedited this case and rushed to trial and received a conviction but due to some procedural technicality it was overturned.

My point is a rush to prosecute can do more harm than good. And I'm not saying that I don't think the officer is guilty. I believe from what I know so far he is.
 
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KB5252 said:
Let's play Devil's Advocate with this latest case.

If the medical examiner finds that the guy injested cocaine and it caused a cardiac event would that change your opinion?

What if they expedited this case and rushed to trial and received a conviction but due to some procedural technicality it was overturned.

My point is a rush to prosecute can do more harm than good. And I'm not saying that I don't think the officer is guilty. I believe from what I know so far he is.
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So what you are saying is to let our justice system work as it was designed. That is a novel concept.
 
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