Orangeslice13, a blessing to those around him…..Again

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Seriously I gotta ask cuz no one has given an explanation I understand. How do you guys see matt 5:18 and say it’s not valid? (Maybe the wrong word)
 
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vol445 said:
Seriously I gotta ask cuz no one has given an explanation I understand. How do you guys see matt 5:18 and say it’s not valid? (Maybe the wrong word)
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Context is key to interpretation of scriptures. Look at what it is actually talking about and your going to find the answer.
 
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vol445 said:
See there it is. You know I’ve read that scripture many times.
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Aaron's priesthood could make no one perfect or righteous, but Jesus could. It's a better priesthood! A better covenant, a better sacrifice!! Don't miss the point of the book!!!
 
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BigO95 said:
Aaron's priesthood could make no one perfect or righteous, but Jesus could. It's a better priesthood! A better covenant, a better sacrifice!! Don't miss the point of the book!!!
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But it still doesn’t replace it. It builds off it
 
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If you have dead space in your house and you want to convert it to a bathroom you don’t tear the foundation out and buil the bathroom. You use the foundation and build on top of it.
 
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BigO95 said:
Slice, what manuscripts in the Hebrew and Greek do you consider to be the final authority and why do you pick those? Just curious?!?!
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With the letters it’s the oldest available copies and their authority is weighted against the unchanging Torah.
The scribes took great care to insure Torah remains unchanged and history bears that out. That didn’t happen with the NT.
You’re a KJV only guy and I’m ok with us disagreeing about it’s authority
 
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BigO95 said:
I would say that the law is useless to make one righteous, would you not agree with that?
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The law (or portion of the law you’re referring too) was never intended to make one righteous. The law makes us righteous through the sacrifices of which Messiah is the final. Because the sacrifices are complete doesn’t mean the definition of sin has changed when G-d said his law was forever.

Messiah completed sin sacrifice by the law. I can show you by the law how that is true.
Show me any provision in that law that says that the definition of sin can change. I can show you numerous places where it says it cannot
 
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BigO95 said:
I believe that the all the New testament including Hebrews reveals the spirit of the law and reveals more about our Lord and savior as well. It's a theme through the whole Bible that God continues to reveal more of himself to man. Now we have a complete revelation of all that we need to do the work of God and get to heaven. It's simply found in the Bible.
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Psalms does that.
There’s nothing new under the sun. What G-d says from the beginning is till the end.
Proverbs
 
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BigO95 said:
You are missing the point of the passage. It's that simple. You are taking issue with one little statement and missing what he is saying that is completely in step with the entire Bible.
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The entire Hebrews is covered with errors that don’t exist in the rest of scripture.
We are charged to be like the Bereans and test the letters so we know they’re true.
Hebrews 9:19 gets nothing right. It cannot be scripture
 
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vol445 said:
Why would you say “lost jews”?
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Because he’d take the advice of brick masons for how to buy jewelry.

Instead you seek the advice of those who know the topic
That’s why Christos can’t teach Jews about Messiah. They literally don’t know how it works within the law
 
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Mathew 5:18
18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not [h]the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Messiah completion of the sacrifices for sin is spelled out and within the law so that the end of sacrifice isn’t a change. It’s lawful. Nowhere in the law is there a provision for a change in the behavior that G-d expects from people who (actually) believe him. It’s actually the opposite and Paul explains it perfectly in Romans ch7 and 8. he starts by saying he’s speaking to those who know the law. If you don’t then you probably don’t understand what he’s saying.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Because he’d take the advice of brick masons for how to buy jewelry.

Instead you seek the advice of those who know the topic
That’s why Christos can’t teach Jews about Messiah. They literally don’t know how it works within the law
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That is quite the statement.. I think the Gospel of Jesus Christ seeing Paul said that it is the power of God unto salvation will still get the job done.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Mathew 5:18
18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not [h]the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Messiah completion of the sacrifices for sin is spelled out and within the law so that the end of sacrifice isn’t a change. It’s lawful. Nowhere in the law is there a provision for a change in the behavior that G-d expects from people who (actually) believe him. It’s actually the opposite and Paul explains it perfectly in Romans ch7 and 8. he starts by saying he’s speaking to those who know the law. If you don’t then you probably don’t understand what he’s saying.
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And where does Hebrews claim that the definition of sin changed? I never got that from reading it.
 
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